Bye big amp, hi small(er) amp.
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My vote: Accoustic Image Clarus amp and a FliteSound cab. That’s what I use. Mike O.
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I’m using an AMP BH-420 through two custom Nahas cabs (designed and built by Joey Nahas of Laurel,MD), a small 1-15 and a tiltback 1-12 w/horn, both rear ported. Less than 100 lb. for the entire rig, so far it’s blown everyone away who’s heard it live; musicians, soundpeople and audience. Brad
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Keep the head. It’s a good head, and it’s small enough. Get a new bottom. You’ll end up considerably smaller than the most popular combos, such as the SWR Super Redhead, Eden Metro, Peavey BAM-210, GK, Ampeg B2, etc. I think all of those are bulky as hell and very inflexible in terms of where you can fit them. Edward G. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I’m moving into an apartment in another city at the end of the summer, to > continue my studies and improve myself as a person, and hopefully to find a new > band. > The bars are small and the apartments are smaller, so I plan on selling my Ampeg > SVT3-Pro and 410HLF and picking up a powerful 2×10 combo of some kind. Does > anyone have any particularly heartfelt recommendations? I imagine the most > people I’ll ever be playing for for the next 2-3 years will be around 100, 125 > tops. > I have heard some Peavy combos are great, as well as some Yorkvilles. > Obviously, if I sell the two Ampegs, I’ll have some money to sink into it, so > cost shouldn’t be too much of an issue. > – Avenger
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My recommedation would be a Euphonic Audio CxL-112 cabinet. They are light, loud, and accurate, without the low-mid bump common to most other bass cabs. It’s sort of like a large studio monitor, and uses some unique cabinet design to achieve it’s impressive performance. I use two of them with an SWR 350x in a VERY loud band and have no problem keeping up. One actually sufficed, but then the rhythm guitar player got a Hiwatt Custom 100 to "compete" with the lead guitarists 100w Marshall half stack, so I thought that beefing up my speaker compliment was advisable. Anything less than this amount of guitar though and the EA cab was golden. Aside from the CxL-112 they also have a number of other cabs and heads in their line, all of which are excellent. Also, I note you are in Canada. Here in Toronto Euphonic Audio is carried by a shop called Club Bass, who are the only dedicated bass store in Canada AFAIK. Their prices are pretty good, and so is the service. I paid $789 CDN for my second cab last month, having had the first one for almost a year. They also have just started to carry Bergantino cabs, which are about as light but more conventional in design and somewhat less loud; they are also less costly. Check out their website at www.clubbass.ca Just checked the site now; they seem to have added a line of ultralight bass amplification called Mark Bass. Some interesting stuff there. Also they carry a number of cool high tech bass related items, such as EBS effects and stuff from Raven Labs and Radial. They also stock Lakland, Sadowsky, Dingwall, Ken Lawrence and Rob Allen basses along with some choice used pieces. The guy who runs it , Dave, is tremendously knowledgable if somewhat pedantic, but is a good guy and definately gets my recommedation for a call if you can afford the long distance or an email at the very least. Check out the site anyway. Chris Bates 2001 Lakland 55-94 Deluxe, 2003 Fender Aerodyne Jazz, 1985 Ibenaz RB960, SWR350x, 2x Euphonic Audio CxL-112, Boss TU-2 Tuner, EBS Multidrive, Fulltone Bassdrive
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>I was looking at combos and liked the Baby Babyblue – however in the end >I bought an Eden WT400 head + 12" cab. I like the flexibility of this >and being able to take only the head with me if I am heading somewhere >where they’ve already got cabs 
I tried the new Mesa 300W combo (either a 10" or 12" in it, can’t recall exactly) a few weeks ago and was very impressed. Small, light, loud and sounded really good. jeffb
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thanks for the helpful comments, everybody! For some reason (too much > essay?) I > hadn’t thought of keeping the SVT and just getting a smaller cab (1×12 or 2×10, > likely). However, I think this is the route I’ll take. I’d loooove to sink > some dough into a small Epifani or Eden cab, but they’re so much more expensive > than other brands that I doubt my 410HLF would cover the costs. I would still > like to come out on top. I’m going to look around at some music stores > here and > see what kinds of cabs and combos they carry, and hopefully come to a decision > by September. > – Avenger > If you want a small light weight bass amp. > Try a Clarus by Acoustic Image. > Pt
I totally back up what Pt is saying about Acoustic Image’s amps/cabs. I had a teacher in Charlotte, NC who knows the guy who makes them, he had a prototype and that little thing sounded UNREAL. You could plug an upright into it and it sounded fantastic. And I sympathize with you about the 410HLF, I have one myself still, powered by an Ampeg SVT350 (both are home with the folks right now, I’ve just got my little Hartke Kickback 12 in the apt right now), and I always wish for those nice lows & the headroom that my stack can provide. Oh well, can’t have everything! Oh, and as far as 2×10’s go, everybody on the thread suggested an excellent amp, I’m partial to the Redhead or an Epifani 2×10. Cheers! — -Jeff Gogo22 on AIM / iChat
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>The bars are small and the apartments are smaller, so I plan on selling my Ampeg >SVT3-Pro and 410HLF and picking up a powerful 2×10 combo of some kind.
I think you’ll be suffering low-end withdrawal pangs when you get rid of that 410HLF, but I sympathise. It weighs a ton. Ouch, already. Why not keep that head ? It’s LIGHT, compared to much of the competition. It puts out 275W into 8 ohms or 450 into 4 ohms. It’s paid for. What’s the downside ? Look into a Bergantino or Epifani cabinet, from all the talk here, the 1×12s are probably ideal for your needs. —-== Posted via Newsfeed.Com – Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==—- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups —= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers – Total Privacy via Encryption =—
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Thanks for the helpful comments, everybody! For some reason (too much essay?) I hadn’t thought of keeping the SVT and just getting a smaller cab (1×12 or 2×10, likely). However, I think this is the route I’ll take. I’d loooove to sink some dough into a small Epifani or Eden cab, but they’re so much more expensive than other brands that I doubt my 410HLF would cover the costs. I would still like to come out on top. I’m going to look around at some music stores here and see what kinds of cabs and combos they carry, and hopefully come to a decision by September. – Avenger
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>Thanks for the helpful comments, everybody! For some reason (too much essay?) I >hadn’t thought of keeping the SVT and just getting a smaller cab (1×12 or 2×10, >likely). However, I think this is the route I’ll take. I’d loooove to sink >some dough into a small Epifani or Eden cab, but they’re so much more expensive >than other brands that I doubt my 410HLF would cover the costs. I would still >like to come out on top. I’m going to look around at some music stores here and >see what kinds of cabs and combos they carry, and hopefully come to a decision >by September. >- Avenger
If you want a small light weight bass amp. Try a Clarus by Acoustic Image. Pt
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I’m moving into an apartment in another city at the end of the summer, to > continue my studies and improve myself as a person, and hopefully to find a > new > band. > The bars are small and the apartments are smaller, so I plan on selling my >Ampeg > SVT3-Pro and 410HLF and picking up a powerful 2×10 combo of some kind. >Does > anyone have any particularly heartfelt recommendations? I imagine the most > people I’ll ever be playing for for the next 2-3 years will be around 100, 125 > tops. > I have heard some Peavy combos are great, as well as some Yorkvilles. > Obviously, if I sell the two Ampegs, I’ll have some money to sink into it, so > cost shouldn’t be too much of an issue. > – Avenger
I was looking at combos and liked the Baby Babyblue – however in the end I bought an Eden WT400 head + 12" cab. I like the flexibility of this and being able to take only the head with me if I am heading somewhere where they’ve already got cabs Good luck Anna — iChat/AOL/ICQ: annabassand (AOL/AIM handle)
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> I plan on selling my Ampeg > SVT3-Pro and 410HLF and picking up a powerful 2×10 combo of some kind. Does > anyone have any particularly heartfelt recommendations?
‘Mornin’, Saint. Sorry if my posts appear twice, my at-home ISP has really poor service, and my posts aren’t showing anywhere except on my home computer. If it looks like I’m posting twice, it’s because it looks to me like I’m only posting once. Anyway, you should take a look at the Fender Bassman 400 combo. Set aside whatever prejudices you may have against Fender amps, this is a very nice unit. If you can find a Peavey T-Max 210 Combo, that’s a very powerful, loud 2×10 combo. Fairly small, but heavy. I had one for a few years, and it was indestructible.
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> Ed, > I’m an "oldie" myself and used to play 2X15, 4X15, 1X18 w/2X10… > thought that I needed tha much cab…usually I ran Sunn or Peavey heads. > Today I used a Bergantino 3X10 and I’m not missing ANY lows. We do a lot > of funk/R&B and I slap just a tad…the lows while slapping are really > nice. I could never get that sound from larger cabs. > Fingerstyle is much the same as it ever was….GROWL… > PJ
Thanks, PJ. I guess we have taken much the same paths. I still collect large cabinets, but I hope I never have to take them anywhere. They are great for nostalgia. The 2×10" equipped combo amps fascinate me. While I was innovative and helped pioneer the treble bass sound back in the seventies, these days I am more into the old rumbly bass of years gone by. The music that I prefer these days is much less energetic than some of the modern stuff that I am hearing. I just want to lay back and enjoy the ride, playing basic lines and not slapping/popping/boinging. Frankly, I wouldn’t know how to do the latter anyway, and at my age, I don’t really want to work that hard at learning new techniques. I’ll let the young’uns do it. They do it better than I ever could anyway. This is not to say that I do not enjoy hearing that style of bass, because I do. I just don’t want to play it myself. Anyway, the thought of hearing lots of bass from two tiny tens just fascinates me. Ed Cregger
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I don’t know how long you have been playing bass, so please forgive me my > question if you are too young to know the answer. > I used to use a Kustom 100 watt bass amp with a 2×15" Kustom enclosure. Are > you familiar with that amp and its capabilities? > How would the above amp stack up against one of the new 2×10" combos with > lots of watts? Assume they were both being played by bassists using passive > pickup Precision or Jazz Bass guitars with flatwound strings and in the old > traditional manner of rumble bass. > Do those tiny ten inch speakers have enough oomph to compete with a couple > of fifteens? > Of course, if you’re talking about trebly, modern bass, with no rumble, I > can see how the tens could do that. > I’m having a hard time getting this through my head. But I am trying to > learn. > Smaller bass amps are a good idea for me too, but only if they have the > necessary capability. > Ed Cregger
Well…no I can’t really compare the two. I’m too young to have used amps like you mentiones (I’m sixteen), and I usually play an active-pickup, stainless-roundwound strung bass. But tens can definitely rumble, make no mistake. Low B’s (~30Hz) come through loud, clear, heavy, and deep. And the BAM is something different, too. It’s a modelling amp, so it’s got simulations of different cabinets, including fifteen’s, 8×10’s, and even an eighteen. Lemme tell you, that 18" (Acoustic 360) model sounds *deep*. -Zev http://www.wayeri.com
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I’m moving into an apartment in another city at the end of the summer, to >continue my studies and improve myself as a person, and hopefully to find a new >band. >The bars are small and the apartments are smaller, so I plan on selling my Ampeg >SVT3-Pro and 410HLF and picking up a powerful 2×10 combo of some kind. Does >anyone have any particularly heartfelt recommendations? I imagine the most >people I’ll ever be playing for for the next 2-3 years will be around 100, 125 >tops. >I have heard some Peavy combos are great, as well as some Yorkvilles. >Obviously, if I sell the two Ampegs, I’ll have some money to sink into it, so >cost shouldn’t be too much of an issue. >- Avenger
No one’s mentioned it, so I’ll suggest my favorite, SWR’s 210C…I have spent a lot of time trying out this amp, and I love it. great tone, small package, and major punch and volumn…with an extra cab, it will do about anything you might need, but even stand alone, it’s the best combo I’ve ever used…That said, there are a lot of choices in this area…check out a lot of amps, you’ll find one that will work for you…
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I’m moving into an apartment in another city at the end of the summer, > to > > continue my studies and improve myself as a person, and hopefully to > find a > > new > > band. > > The bars are small and the apartments are smaller, so I plan on selling > my > > Ampeg > > SVT3-Pro and 410HLF and picking up a powerful 2×10 combo of some kind. > Does > > anyone have any particularly heartfelt recommendations? I imagine the > most > > people I’ll ever be playing for for the next 2-3 years will be around > 100, 125 > > tops. > > I have heard some Peavy combos are great, as well as some Yorkvilles. > > Obviously, if I sell the two Ampegs, I’ll have some money to sink into > it, so > > cost shouldn’t be too much of an issue. > > – Avenger > As the owner of one, I can heartily recommend the Peavey BAM 210. They > also > come in different speaker combinations now too, I think – 1×12, 1×15, and > maybe a 1×10 also. Haven’t tried any of the others, but the 2×10 is > fantastic – incredibly versatile, and judging by what you described, I’m > sure it’s powerful enough – 350W into two tens, 500 with an extension cab. > I’ve played in front of 1,000 with less. > It’s a great amp. > -Zev > http://www.wayeri.com > I don’t know how long you have been playing bass, so please forgive me my > question if you are too young to know the answer. > I used to use a Kustom 100 watt bass amp with a 2×15" Kustom enclosure. Are > you familiar with that amp and its capabilities? > How would the above amp stack up against one of the new 2×10" combos with > lots of watts? Assume they were both being played by bassists using passive > pickup Precision or Jazz Bass guitars with flatwound strings and in the old > traditional manner of rumble bass. > Do those tiny ten inch speakers have enough oomph to compete with a couple > of fifteens? > Of course, if you’re talking about trebly, modern bass, with no rumble, I > can see how the tens could do that. > I’m having a hard time getting this through my head. But I am trying to > learn. > Smaller bass amps are a good idea for me too, but only if they have the > necessary capability. > Ed Cregger
Ed, I’m an "oldie" myself and used to play 2X15, 4X15, 1X18 w/2X10… thought that I needed tha much cab…usually I ran Sunn or Peavey heads. Today I used a Bergantino 3X10 and I’m not missing ANY lows. We do a lot of funk/R&B and I slap just a tad…the lows while slapping are really nice. I could never get that sound from larger cabs. Fingerstyle is much the same as it ever was….GROWL… PJ
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Thanks, Rob. I still think they’re very nice. Brad – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> As the owner of one, I can heartily recommend the Peavey BAM 210. They >also > come in different speaker combinations now too, I think – 1×12, 1×15, and > maybe a 1×10 also. Haven’t tried any of the others, but the 2×10 is > fantastic – incredibly versatile, and judging by what you described, I’m > sure it’s powerful enough – 350W into two tens, 500 with an extension cab. > I’ve played in front of 1,000 with less. > It’s a great amp. >I remember Brad Johnson liking those. That says a lot to me. >– > O> >/() > ^^ Slidell, LA
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I don’t know how long you have been playing bass, so please forgive me my > question if you are too young to know the answer. > I used to use a Kustom 100 watt bass amp with a 2×15" Kustom enclosure. Are > you familiar with that amp and its capabilities? > How would the above amp stack up against one of the new 2×10" combos with > lots of watts? Assume they were both being played by bassists using passive > pickup Precision or Jazz Bass guitars with flatwound strings and in the old > traditional manner of rumble bass. > Do those tiny ten inch speakers have enough oomph to compete with a couple > of fifteens? > Of course, if you’re talking about trebly, modern bass, with no rumble, I > can see how the tens could do that. > I’m having a hard time getting this through my head. But I am trying to > learn. > Smaller bass amps are a good idea for me too, but only if they have the > necessary capability. > Ed Cregger > Well…no I can’t really compare the two. I’m too young to have used amps > like you mentiones (I’m sixteen), and I usually play an active-pickup, > stainless-roundwound strung bass. But tens can definitely rumble, make no > mistake. Low B’s (~30Hz) come through loud, clear, heavy, and deep. > And the BAM is something different, too. It’s a modelling amp, so it’s got > simulations of different cabinets, including fifteen’s, 8×10’s, and even an > eighteen. Lemme tell you, that 18" (Acoustic 360) model sounds *deep*. > -Zev > http://www.wayeri.com
Thanks for the quick reply, Zev. I wish I could get out to try one of the modern bass setups. Ed Cregger – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m moving into an apartment in another city at the end of the summer, to > continue my studies and improve myself as a person, and hopefully to find a new > band. > The bars are small and the apartments are smaller, so I plan on selling my Ampeg > SVT3-Pro and 410HLF and picking up a powerful 2×10 combo of some kind. Does > anyone have any particularly heartfelt recommendations? I imagine the most > people I’ll ever be playing for for the next 2-3 years will be around 100, 125 > tops. > I have heard some Peavy combos are great, as well as some Yorkvilles. > Obviously, if I sell the two Ampegs, I’ll have some money to sink into it, so > cost shouldn’t be too much of an issue.
If you like the SVT3, why not just get a more portable cabinet? LOTS of 2×10"s that people love out there. – eden to mention but one. That way you’re going to have the power and punch to cut through without sacrificing headroom too much. cb
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I’m moving into an apartment in another city at the end of the summer, to continue my studies and improve myself as a person, and hopefully to find a new band. The bars are small and the apartments are smaller, so I plan on selling my Ampeg SVT3-Pro and 410HLF and picking up a powerful 2×10 combo of some kind. Does anyone have any particularly heartfelt recommendations? I imagine the most people I’ll ever be playing for for the next 2-3 years will be around 100, 125 tops. I have heard some Peavy combos are great, as well as some Yorkvilles. Obviously, if I sell the two Ampegs, I’ll have some money to sink into it, so cost shouldn’t be too much of an issue. – Avenger
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m moving into an apartment in another city at the end of the summer, to > continue my studies and improve myself as a person, and hopefully to find a > new > band. > The bars are small and the apartments are smaller, so I plan on selling my > Ampeg > SVT3-Pro and 410HLF and picking up a powerful 2×10 combo of some kind. Does > anyone have any particularly heartfelt recommendations? I imagine the most > people I’ll ever be playing for for the next 2-3 years will be around 100, 125 > tops. > I have heard some Peavy combos are great, as well as some Yorkvilles. > Obviously, if I sell the two Ampegs, I’ll have some money to sink into it, so > cost shouldn’t be too much of an issue. > – Avenger
As the owner of one, I can heartily recommend the Peavey BAM 210. They also come in different speaker combinations now too, I think – 1×12, 1×15, and maybe a 1×10 also. Haven’t tried any of the others, but the 2×10 is fantastic – incredibly versatile, and judging by what you described, I’m sure it’s powerful enough – 350W into two tens, 500 with an extension cab. I’ve played in front of 1,000 with less. It’s a great amp. -Zev http://www.wayeri.com
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What city are you moving to? You’re in Quispam now, right? I have family out at Gondola Point. Andrew – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I’m moving into an apartment in another city at the end of the summer, to > continue my studies and improve myself as a person, and hopefully to find a new > band. > The bars are small and the apartments are smaller, so I plan on selling my Ampeg > SVT3-Pro and 410HLF and picking up a powerful 2×10 combo of some kind. Does > anyone have any particularly heartfelt recommendations? I imagine the most > people I’ll ever be playing for for the next 2-3 years will be around 100, 125 > tops. > I have heard some Peavy combos are great, as well as some Yorkvilles. > Obviously, if I sell the two Ampegs, I’ll have some money to sink into it, so > cost shouldn’t be too much of an issue. > – Avenger
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m moving into an apartment in another city at the end of the summer, to > continue my studies and improve myself as a person, and hopefully to find a > new > band. > The bars are small and the apartments are smaller, so I plan on selling my > Ampeg > SVT3-Pro and 410HLF and picking up a powerful 2×10 combo of some kind. Does > anyone have any particularly heartfelt recommendations? I imagine the most > people I’ll ever be playing for for the next 2-3 years will be around 100, 125 > tops. > I have heard some Peavy combos are great, as well as some Yorkvilles. > Obviously, if I sell the two Ampegs, I’ll have some money to sink into it, so > cost shouldn’t be too much of an issue. > – Avenger > As the owner of one, I can heartily recommend the Peavey BAM 210. They also > come in different speaker combinations now too, I think – 1×12, 1×15, and > maybe a 1×10 also. Haven’t tried any of the others, but the 2×10 is > fantastic – incredibly versatile, and judging by what you described, I’m > sure it’s powerful enough – 350W into two tens, 500 with an extension cab. > I’ve played in front of 1,000 with less. > It’s a great amp. > -Zev > http://www.wayeri.com
I don’t know how long you have been playing bass, so please forgive me my question if you are too young to know the answer. I used to use a Kustom 100 watt bass amp with a 2×15" Kustom enclosure. Are you familiar with that amp and its capabilities? How would the above amp stack up against one of the new 2×10" combos with lots of watts? Assume they were both being played by bassists using passive pickup Precision or Jazz Bass guitars with flatwound strings and in the old traditional manner of rumble bass. Do those tiny ten inch speakers have enough oomph to compete with a couple of fifteens? Of course, if you’re talking about trebly, modern bass, with no rumble, I can see how the tens could do that. I’m having a hard time getting this through my head. But I am trying to learn. Smaller bass amps are a good idea for me too, but only if they have the necessary capability. Ed Cregger
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So says Andrew Galloway: > What city are you moving to? You’re in Quispam now, right? I have > family out at Gondola Point.
Fredericton–doing my MA at UNB there. – Avenger
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> As the owner of one, I can heartily recommend the Peavey BAM 210. They also > come in different speaker combinations now too, I think – 1×12, 1×15, and > maybe a 1×10 also. Haven’t tried any of the others, but the 2×10 is > fantastic – incredibly versatile, and judging by what you described, I’m > sure it’s powerful enough – 350W into two tens, 500 with an extension cab. > I’ve played in front of 1,000 with less. > It’s a great amp.
I remember Brad Johnson liking those. That says a lot to me. — O> /() ^^ Slidell, LA
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I’ve tried out both the Gallien Kruger 700RB 2×10 combo and the Peavey BAM 210. I’d recommend both. Of course there’s always the Eden Metro and the SWR Red Head if you have the money. Hope this helps. Dave
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m moving into an apartment in another city at the end of the summer, to > continue my studies and improve myself as a person, and hopefully to find a new > band. > The bars are small and the apartments are smaller, so I plan on selling my Ampeg > SVT3-Pro and 410HLF and picking up a powerful 2×10 combo of some kind. Does > anyone have any particularly heartfelt recommendations? I imagine the most > people I’ll ever be playing for for the next 2-3 years will be around 100, 125 > tops. > I have heard some Peavy combos are great, as well as some Yorkvilles. > Obviously, if I sell the two Ampegs, I’ll have some money to sink into it, so > cost shouldn’t be too much of an issue. > – Avenger
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