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OT: Drumming…

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Well this group is extraordinary :-) I will check it out, if it’s no >good I will see what else I can find. To me it seems that there aren’t >nearly as many good drumming resources compared to what you can find for >bass players :-( >       www.harmonycentral.com also has good forums for musicians. >       What sort of drums and styles are you playing ? I’ve recently > put together a compact electronic kit using Roland pads and brain, and > I’m fairly happy with it. Cymbal triggers are always pretty weird, > though. >       There are a new generation of lighter "custom style" cymbals > out that sound good at lower volumes – you don’t have to bang them as > hard to drive them to their full voice. They’re very expensive, but > some of them sound great.

Hi :-) I now play acoustic drums …see my answer to Mark for details :-) I did however play electronic drums (Roland TD 8K) until I sold them to purchase an MTD bass guitar :-) Still got my priorities right. When I bought a drum kit about 2 weeks ago I didn’t have a big budget for drums and the electrnonic kit I wanted (TD-20 or TD-40) was far, far too much money.  I am still very interested in following the electronic side of things. Have you got some info on those "custom style" cymbals? /Anna

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > "Anna Margrethe Andersen" To me it seems that there aren’t > nearly as many good drumming resources compared to what you can find for > bass players :-( > /Anna > the only ones I read are primarily for Edrummers, but each has a good bit of >acoustic input from time to time. > they feel more like AGB- not as much drama as the anything-goes >acoustic groups. > you know how drummers are… > http://www.vdrums.com/forum/ > http://www.edrumming.com/forum/ > or you can come over to the Analog Missionary forum, and we can >start a drum catagory   ;-) > http://social.3rror.com/xush/index.php

Hi Mark Yey :-) We should sort something out. There seem to be a lot of nice bass players who also plays drums here. Maybe we can even talk Dude into opening a thread for "bassplaying drummers"? :-) Could be nice to use the same forum – also for bass players to ask questions about drummer’s viewpoints on things????? :-) Speaking of electronic kits: I used to own a Roland TD-8K kit which I then sold to get myself the MTD bass guitar. I found that I wasn’t too happy with the TD8 kit. The drums are too small and the pads were nothing like cymbals. The TD40K kit seems very nice though – but also very far out of my financial range! This time I have bought an acoustic kit :-) I got hold of a Gretsch Catalina Birch set (10, 12, 14 and 20) + Masterwork resonant 22" ride + Masterwork custom 14" hi-hat + Masterwork resonant 8" splash Masterwork resonant 16" crash …. I am pretty impressed with the Masterwork cymbals! This should keep me happy for a while /Anna

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> john, if you’re ever interested in the ultimate E-cymbal, I’ve found my >favorites at: > http://smartrigger.com/index.html > I’m using them now; they are real cymbals, muted with a rubber layer >underneath. > They feel, swing, and balance just like the real thing. > Only problem you face is the tones you trigger- most module’s cymbal >tones have a ways to go yet… > what module are you using? > m

Wow… these seem nice! They look like the real thing. /Anna

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> And what’s with you bunch of Wuss bass players? Hey I can > understand Anna being shy ’cause she’s a newbie, but you > guys can’t be THAT scared of Wobbie and Super! I mean I’ve > been over there from just about the first day and I’m not > THAT nuts yet!

Hey I’m not new to this – I’ve been around :-) In the good way… Trust me :-) LOL > Listen Anna, don’t be put off by all the theatre in RMMP.

Thanks for your advice. I have added it to my list of news groups and will check it out .. . /Anna

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> maybe this will help: > http://www.kenbrashear.com/ > http://www.mikeportnoy.com/monster/?menu=interact

Great link! /Anna

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"Anna Margrethe Andersen" To me it seems that there aren’t > nearly as many good drumming resources compared to what you can find for > bass players :-( > /Anna

the only ones I read are primarily for Edrummers, but each has a good bit of acoustic input from time to time. they feel more like AGB- not as much drama as the anything-goes acoustic groups. you know how drummers are… http://www.vdrums.com/forum/ http://www.edrumming.com/forum/ or you can come over to the Analog Missionary forum, and we can start a drum catagory   ;-) http://social.3rror.com/xush/index.php

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>Well this group is extraordinary :-) I will check it out, if it’s no >good I will see what else I can find. To me it seems that there aren’t >nearly as many good drumming resources compared to what you can find for >bass players :-(

        www.harmonycentral.com also has good forums for musicians.         What sort of drums and styles are you playing ? I’ve recently put together a compact electronic kit using Roland pads and brain, and I’m fairly happy with it. Cymbal triggers are always pretty weird, though.         There are a new generation of lighter "custom style" cymbals out that sound good at lower volumes – you don’t have to bang them as hard to drive them to their full voice. They’re very expensive, but some of them sound great.

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john, if you’re ever interested in the ultimate E-cymbal, I’ve found my favorites at: http://smartrigger.com/index.html I’m using them now; they are real cymbals, muted with a rubber layer underneath. They feel, swing, and balance just like the real thing. Only problem you face is the tones you trigger- most module’s cymbal tones have a ways to go yet… what module are you using? m "John S. Shinal"> – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> www.harmonycentral.com also has good forums for musicians. > What sort of drums and styles are you playing ? I’ve recently > put together a compact electronic kit using Roland pads and brain, and > I’m fairly happy with it. Cymbal triggers are always pretty weird, > though. > There are a new generation of lighter "custom style" cymbals > out that sound good at lower volumes – you don’t have to bang them as > hard to drive them to their full voice. They’re very expensive, but > some of them sound great.

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>john, if you’re ever interested in the ultimate E-cymbal, I’ve found my favorites at: >http://smartrigger.com/index.html

        Thanks, I’ll look into them. I’m by no means a purist, but all the triggers I’ve tried just feel funny. >I’m using them now; they are real cymbals, muted with a rubber layer underneath. >They feel, swing, and balance just like the real thing. >Only problem you face is the tones you trigger- most module’s cymbal tones have a ways to go yet… >what module are you using?

        The PD-8 I believe. Not the fancy one. It’s a pretty ordinary 5 drum rig. I also have a spare and ancient Alesis for extra percussion noises using Dingbat triggers, which is OK for the task.         I’d love to do a little more with playing back samples of actual cymbals I recorded, but haven’t seen a reasonable way of doing so.         Some of my units’ voices are really quite good, but others could use some tweaking.

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maybe this will help: http://www.kenbrashear.com/ http://www.mikeportnoy.com/monster/?menu=interact

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but .. then again we can do away with drummers altogether http://www.flexhosting.net/wwwpeart/ perpetual agb lurker Norman

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>but .. then again we can do away with drummers altogether >http://www.flexhosting.net/wwwpeart/

        It’ll never work. You can’t get a robot drunk.

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> but .. then again we can do away with drummers altogether > http://www.flexhosting.net/wwwpeart/

That’s friggin awesome….  The speed of those actuators is really quite impressive.   —   /"  ASCII Ribbon Campaign                | Todd H   /                                       | http://www.toddh.net/    X   Promoting good netiquette            | http://triplethreatband.com/   /  http://www.toddh.net/netiquette/     | "4 lines suffice."

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> Well, if you’re thick skinned and can filter out BS pretty well, > rec.music.makers.percussion is one choice. I’m a drummer, too, and benj and > myself have been on rmmp for quite a while.

I’ve seen a few other a.g.b. participants there too, but like Todd, I can only stand it for about two weeks per year. > www.drumsmith.com is a much milder site.

I’ve gotten my brother interested in this site, so it must be decent. Can’t remember his nickname… I should ask again.  He’s there only once in a while. — -rob                        O       A       O>      ( -)-*                ....

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> but .. then again we can do away with drummers altogether > http://www.flexhosting.net/wwwpeart/

Pneumatic drumset player…. Lessee…. Say, what if we set up um, say a roll of paper with holes in it to control the air flow to the actuators! Why the drumset would play itself! Oh wait, I think that has already been done back about er…say 1890! And what’s with you bunch of Wuss bass players? Hey I can understand Anna being shy ’cause she’s a newbie, but you guys can’t be THAT scared of Wobbie and Super! I mean I’ve been over there from just about the first day and I’m not THAT nuts yet! Listen Anna, don’t be put off by all the theatre in RMMP. It’s just that. If you meet some of these guys in person or even email them, they are as nice as anybody. But when it’s showtime, it’s like they just got a new CB radio! IF you want a "nice" group, they are out there, but they also are sterile as well as safe. There is a reason free speech is best. If you can’t develop a thick skin and sort the chaff from the grain, then go back to your room and play along with your records. I’ve been to some other groups and often they are haunted by newbies who have long serious discussions of what’s the "best" way to put duct tape all over your drums. Whereas in RMMP there are pro drummers playing at levels that most of the folks here can only dream about and what’s more, they are terrifically nice guys who are totally willing to share their knowledge and experience with anyone. Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water just because there are a few people putting on a sideshow. Benj

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> You need to exercise your killfile better, unless you don’t see this, then > you’re doing fine, I guess.

Nah, I don’t "need to" if I don’t read it.  :-) Actually I have one of the most advanced news readers available with a lot of article scoring options in addition to the traditional killfile plonk…. but when I can’t recall the last time I felt enlightened by a post in that forum, and I’m not in the market for new equipment, the cost benefit analysis just doesn’t pan out for me.  :-) The collective karma of the group is simply too low thanks to the bozos such as a certain steroid user who seem to set the tone. Keep fighting the good fight over there though! Best Regards, —   /"  ASCII Ribbon Campaign                | Todd H   /                                       | http://www.toddh.net/    X   Promoting good netiquette            | http://triplethreatband.com/   /  http://www.toddh.net/netiquette/     | "4 lines suffice."

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> The collective > karma of the group is simply too low thanks to the bozos such as a > certain steroid user who seem to set the tone.

That CSU has been KF’d going on 4 years now. And his super buddy, too. AGB is a much different place, for sure. Makes it worth taking up bass two years ago. Glenn D.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi > I’m back on the board again. I recently changed my internet provider and > guess what: My new ISP didn’t have a news server, so I had to find a > server which could be used independently of which ISP I have :-)  I > really missed reading this group. > Also I am getting back into drumming :-) I very recently got hold of a > proper kit WOOHOOOO! I no longer live in a flat and can play as loud > as I wish :-) > I am looking for a good discussion board/ group committed to drum. I > know that some of you guys also play drums, so can you help me out? > There’s rec.music.makers.percussion, but the douchebag factor there is > a LOT higher than here in AGB.   There are several characters over > there with diagnosable neuroses.  I can typically only take it for a > few weeks, and then abandon it for about a year. > Best Regards,

Well this group is extraordinary :-) I will check it out, if it’s no good I will see what else I can find. To me it seems that there aren’t nearly as many good drumming resources compared to what you can find for bass players :-( /Anna

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi > I’m back on the board again. I recently changed my internet provider and > guess what: My new ISP didn’t have a news server, so I had to find a > server which could be used independently of which ISP I have :-)  I > really missed reading this group. > Also I am getting back into drumming :-) I very recently got hold of a > proper kit WOOHOOOO! I no longer live in a flat and can play as loud > as I wish :-) > I am looking for a good discussion board/ group committed to drum. I > know that some of you guys also play drums, so can you help me out? > There’s rec.music.makers.percussion, but the douchebag factor there is > a LOT higher than here in AGB.   There are several characters over > there with diagnosable neuroses.  I can typically only take it for a > few weeks, and then abandon it for about a year.

You need to exercise your killfile better, unless you don’t see this, then you’re doing fine, I guess. Glenn D.

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> Oh Hi and velkommen tilbage. > I myself have taken up mandolin, I lost my job a few weeks ago, and a friend > and I are rehearsing old sailors tunes, he plays the accordion and are > unemployed too… > We have great fun, I have recordings to prove it, but please dont ask me to > publish them  ;-)))) > S

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