P-neck, J-sound?
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> I like the G&L over all, but the switches are a bit baffling. Mine > did not come with a book explaining their function.
Top one (nearest the neck) is the pickup selector. Middle is series/parallel. Bottom is active off/on/on with treble boost. Keep in mind that tone controls are cut only, no boost. I find the tone controls to be very usable and logical. I find something to like in almost every switch combination.
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>What about a Fender Percision deluxe?
The store where I take lessons had one, and it went FAST, but they haven’t gotten another to replace it. The other stores near me don’t have it either, although I can probably find one or two on my next trip to Memphis. Does it really have the Jazz-type sound, or is it more like a Stingray/Precision combination? — Amateur curmudgeon, equal-opportunity annoyer
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> > "Ed Cregger" > > I like the G&L over all, but the switches are a bit baffling. Mine did not > > come with a book explaining their function. > more than likely : > G&L Tri-Tone active/passive electronics, > 3-way mini-toggle pickup selector, > series/parallel mini-toggle, > preamp control mini-toggle (off/on/on with high end EQ boost)
Thanks. I wish I had bought the five string. Ed Cregger
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I like the G&L over all, but the switches are a bit baffling. Mine > did not come with a book explaining their function. > Top one (nearest the neck) is the pickup selector. > Middle is series/parallel. > Bottom is active off/on/on with treble boost. > Keep in mind that tone controls are cut only, no boost. > I find the tone controls to be very usable and logical. I find > something to like in almost every switch combination.
Thanks, Nil. Much appreciated. No boost seems odd. Ed Cregger
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> What about a Fender Percision deluxe?
I thought those had J necks. — O< "He has Van Gogh’s ear for music." — Billy Wilder /() ^^ Slidell, LA
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>I thought those had J necks.
Actually they have "B" necks on them with 1.65" wide at nut necks…sort of halfway between a 1.5" wide "A" neck and a 1.75" wide "C" neck. Steve "Dude" Barr http://www.schoolofbass.com May 6th – 9th 2004! http://www.TheDudePit.com http://www.VintageBass.com
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The old ones had the jazz "honk" to ‘em. Haven’t played one in awhile though. — Learning funk bass? visit www.js3jazz.com/store.htm "Speaking the Truth in times of Universal deceit is a revolutionary act." — George Orwell
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->What about a Fender Percision deluxe? > The store where I take lessons had one, and it went FAST, but they haven’t > gotten another to replace it. The other stores near me don’t have it > either, although I can probably find one or two on my next trip to Memphis. > Does it really have the Jazz-type sound, or is it more like a > Stingray/Precision combination? > — > Amateur curmudgeon, equal-opportunity annoyer
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The old ones had the jazz "honk" to ‘em. Haven’t played one in awhile > though. > — > Learning funk bass? visit www.js3jazz.com/store.htm > "Speaking the Truth in times of Universal deceit is a revolutionary act." — > George Orwell > >What about a Fender Percision deluxe? > The store where I take lessons had one, and it went FAST, but they haven’t > gotten another to replace it. The other stores near me don’t have it > either, although I can probably find one or two on my next trip to > Memphis. > Does it really have the Jazz-type sound, or is it more like a > Stingray/Precision combination? > — > Amateur curmudgeon, equal-opportunity annoyer
Let’s see, Jazz Basses honk and Strats quack. Why am I getting the feeling that some of you folks have a fowl obsession? Ed Cregger
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> No boost seems odd.
Seems odd on the surface, maybe, but in practice there’s plenty of extreme tone in the pickups to begin with, so I’ve never wanted any boost. I keep all the controls at about 50%, so they act like they both boost and cut.
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I was just at Guitar Center in Memphis yesterday & they have tons of Precision Deluxes… I traded my Squier P-Deluxe for a MIM Fender Jazz V string…It kicks smokin ass ,comparitvely speaking, of course…..The bass was even set up 1/2 way decent & the sound is just what i’m looking for…. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->What about a Fender Percision deluxe? > The store where I take lessons had one, and it went FAST, but they haven’t > gotten another to replace it. The other stores near me don’t have it > either, although I can probably find one or two on my next trip to Memphis. > Does it really have the Jazz-type sound, or is it more like a > Stingray/Precision combination?
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>>Just out of curiosity, what would that run? That combo sounds pretty >darn good to me, as I like the feel of a P in preference to a J, but a >dual pickup setup would be nice. > $825 plus your choice of $65 for gig or $85 for HSC plus $25 shipping.
Damn… that is ALMOST tempting. Damn you Dude! Damn you! <leans over onto one butt cheek> ahhh… that’s better. — O< "He has Van Gogh’s ear for music." — Billy Wilder /() ^^ Slidell, LA
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I’m a newbie. When I started about six months ago, I tried several basses >before settling on a nice MIM Fender Precision. I still love it, but now >I’m feeling the onset of GAS and I’d like to get another bass to go along >with it. Since I have a P, I’m thinking about the Jazz Bass or something >with similar looks and tone; but I don’t really care for the skinnier J >neck. >Can anyone recommend one or more basses to try that combine a J sound with >the wider fretboard and chunky neck of a P? If the instrument resembles a >genuine Fender Jazz, that’s a plus … but a somewhat different design is >not a deal-breaker. I’d prefer to stay below $1000US if possible. Passive >electronics preferred, but again not a dealbreaker. Four-string models >only, please. I will consider shorter-scale basses, but would rather stick >with a 34-inch scale. >If a bass can cover more than JUST the J sound, that’s a plus. What I’d >really like to find is an instrument that can cover both Jazz and Stingray >sounds (within reason, of course), but that may be expecting too much from >any bass. >Naturally I want to find something I can try before I buy. There are a few >small stores near me, and larger stores (including a Guitar Center) within >reasonable driving distance. What I’m looking for from the group is a list >of recommendations I can search out and try; that pretty much rules out >some less-common instruments … although Memphis has a long musical >heritage and almost anything could turn up if I spend enough time looking >in that city. >If it helps, I’m a "recovering" guitarist who’s trying to get away from >pick-style on every song, and a fan of old-school (especially Top 40 and >R&B from the 1950s through the 1970s). The neck on my instructor’s >pre-Ernie Ball Music Man Sabre feels very good and he can get some fairly >Jazz-like sounds out of it,; but of course the Sabre is no longer made. >(His store doesn’t carry Music Man basses anyway — mostly Fender and Dean, >with a couple of Gibsons and other trade-ins.) >– >Amateur curmudgeon, equal-opportunity annoyer
Having had some difficulty with a 69 Jazz Bass (truss rod popped through fingerboard shooting inlay across the room) I replaced the neck with a P Bass neck, since I, like you, prefer the chunkiness (and resulting straightness and fuller sound) of the P Bass neck. This worked great and I have kept it that way ever since. Paul Don’t just sit there — DO SOMETHING! PC
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> Can anyone recommend one or more basses to try that combine a J sound with > the wider fretboard and chunky neck of a P? > G&L L-2000 maybe? The Tribute import models look real tempting to me! > (active though) > or maybe a MusicMan SUB? > neither J like… but they both came to mind reading your post
My G&L Tribute is active, but it’s not what I was afraid it would be. I made my own "active" bass back in the seventies using Godbout circuitry and 741 op amps. The "active" aspect was overpowering, to say the least. The G&L is nothing like that at all. Much more refined and civilized. I could have tamed my Godbout equipped bass down with a simple series resistor, but lost interest in the project. I like the G&L neck. It is similar to a thinned Precision Bass neck. It is very comfortable. With the wide range of tone control available, the G&L 2000 Tribute easily takes the place of a Jazz for me. I played Jazz basses through most of my active years and am not easy to please. My only regret with the G&L, actually, there are two, is the lack of a fifth string. I wish I had gone that route after playing my Lakland five string. The other regret with the G&L is the color of the finish. I do not like the brilliant red/cherry sunburst. I would have preferred traditional tobacco sunburst, but it wasn’t available. I was sick of naturally finished instruments. They’re nice, but I’ve had a bunch of them and wanted something different. The G&L’s body is fashioned after the Precision Bass, but is a tad smaller and lighter. I like it. Ed Cregger
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G&L 2000 or 2500 USA ones on Ebay used are about the same as Tributes (Korean) new. The Tributes use the same electronics. Dave
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> G&L 2000 or 2500 > USA ones on Ebay used are about the same as Tributes (Korean) new. The > Tributes use the same electronics. > Dave
I like the G&L over all, but the switches are a bit baffling. Mine did not come with a book explaining their function. Ed Cregger
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I’ve got a ’splanation of those somewhere. stand by… (one should be the p’up selector, one is active/passive, and I think the other is EQ boosts or coil taps?…lemme check) m "Ed Cregger" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I like the G&L over all, but the switches are a bit baffling. Mine did not > come with a book explaining their function.
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> "Ed Cregger" > I like the G&L over all, but the switches are a bit baffling. Mine did not > come with a book explaining their function.
more than likely : G&L Tri-Tone active/passive electronics, 3-way mini-toggle pickup selector, series/parallel mini-toggle, preamp control mini-toggle (off/on/on with high end EQ boost)
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>Just out of curiosity, what would that run? That combo sounds pretty >darn good to me, as I like the feel of a P in preference to a J, but a >dual pickup setup would be nice.
$825 plus your choice of $65 for gig or $85 for HSC plus $25 shipping. Steve "Dude" Barr http://www.schoolofbass.com May 6th – 9th 2004! http://www.TheDudePit.com http://www.VintageBass.com
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What about a Fender Percision deluxe? — Learning funk bass? visit www.js3jazz.com/store.htm "Speaking the Truth in times of Universal deceit is a revolutionary act." — George Orwell
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m a newbie. When I started about six months ago, I tried several basses > before settling on a nice MIM Fender Precision. I still love it, but now > I’m feeling the onset of GAS and I’d like to get another bass to go along > with it. Since I have a P, I’m thinking about the Jazz Bass or something > with similar looks and tone; but I don’t really care for the skinnier J > neck. > Can anyone recommend one or more basses to try that combine a J sound with > the wider fretboard and chunky neck of a P? If the instrument resembles a > genuine Fender Jazz, that’s a plus … but a somewhat different design is > not a deal-breaker. I’d prefer to stay below $1000US if possible. Passive > electronics preferred, but again not a dealbreaker. Four-string models > only, please. I will consider shorter-scale basses, but would rather stick > with a 34-inch scale. > If a bass can cover more than JUST the J sound, that’s a plus. What I’d > really like to find is an instrument that can cover both Jazz and Stingray > sounds (within reason, of course), but that may be expecting too much from > any bass. > Naturally I want to find something I can try before I buy. There are a few > small stores near me, and larger stores (including a Guitar Center) within > reasonable driving distance. What I’m looking for from the group is a list > of recommendations I can search out and try; that pretty much rules out > some less-common instruments … although Memphis has a long musical > heritage and almost anything could turn up if I spend enough time looking > in that city. > If it helps, I’m a "recovering" guitarist who’s trying to get away from > pick-style on every song, and a fan of old-school (especially Top 40 and > R&B from the 1950s through the 1970s). The neck on my instructor’s > pre-Ernie Ball Music Man Sabre feels very good and he can get some fairly > Jazz-like sounds out of it,; but of course the Sabre is no longer made. > (His store doesn’t carry Music Man basses anyway — mostly Fender and Dean, > with a couple of Gibsons and other trade-ins.) > — > Amateur curmudgeon, equal-opportunity annoyer
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>I could always have a special Lakland Skyline Joe Osborn (Jazz) made up with a >Skyline Bob Glaub (P-Bass) neck on it if you’d like. I generally am asked to do >the opposite but it’s no big hassle to do. >Steve "Dude" Barr >http://www.schoolofbass.com May 6th – 9th 2004! >http://www.TheDudePit.com >http://www.VintageBass.com
Just out of curiosity, what would that run? That combo sounds pretty darn good to me, as I like the feel of a P in preference to a J, but a dual pickup setup would be nice.
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Check out a Carvin B4 or LB20.
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> Can anyone recommend one or more basses to try that combine a J sound with > the wider fretboard and chunky neck of a P?
G&L L-2000 maybe? The Tribute import models look real tempting to me! (active though) or maybe a MusicMan SUB? neither J like… but they both came to mind reading your post
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Looks exactly like my old 80 Music Man Sabre bass. Was Dudley Gimple involved with the G&L L-2000’s development ? -Joe
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Can anyone recommend one or more basses to try that combine a J sound with > the wider fretboard and chunky neck of a P? > G&L L-2000 maybe? The Tribute import models look real tempting to me! > (active though) > or maybe a MusicMan SUB? > neither J like… but they both came to mind reading your post
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I could always have a special Lakland Skyline Joe Osborn (Jazz) made up with a Skyline Bob Glaub (P-Bass) neck on it if you’d like. I generally am asked to do the opposite but it’s no big hassle to do. Steve "Dude" Barr http://www.schoolofbass.com May 6th – 9th 2004! http://www.TheDudePit.com http://www.VintageBass.com
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I’m a newbie. When I started about six months ago, I tried several basses before settling on a nice MIM Fender Precision. I still love it, but now I’m feeling the onset of GAS and I’d like to get another bass to go along with it. Since I have a P, I’m thinking about the Jazz Bass or something with similar looks and tone; but I don’t really care for the skinnier J neck. Can anyone recommend one or more basses to try that combine a J sound with the wider fretboard and chunky neck of a P? If the instrument resembles a genuine Fender Jazz, that’s a plus … but a somewhat different design is not a deal-breaker. I’d prefer to stay below $1000US if possible. Passive electronics preferred, but again not a dealbreaker. Four-string models only, please. I will consider shorter-scale basses, but would rather stick with a 34-inch scale. If a bass can cover more than JUST the J sound, that’s a plus. What I’d really like to find is an instrument that can cover both Jazz and Stingray sounds (within reason, of course), but that may be expecting too much from any bass. Naturally I want to find something I can try before I buy. There are a few small stores near me, and larger stores (including a Guitar Center) within reasonable driving distance. What I’m looking for from the group is a list of recommendations I can search out and try; that pretty much rules out some less-common instruments … although Memphis has a long musical heritage and almost anything could turn up if I spend enough time looking in that city. If it helps, I’m a "recovering" guitarist who’s trying to get away from pick-style on every song, and a fan of old-school (especially Top 40 and R&B from the 1950s through the 1970s). The neck on my instructor’s pre-Ernie Ball Music Man Sabre feels very good and he can get some fairly Jazz-like sounds out of it,; but of course the Sabre is no longer made. (His store doesn’t carry Music Man basses anyway — mostly Fender and Dean, with a couple of Gibsons and other trade-ins.) — Amateur curmudgeon, equal-opportunity annoyer
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