Going both ways…
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Like some others here I play both guitar and bass. There are many posts here about ignorant guitar players. And for the most part I agree. Many guitar players don’t know the first thing about percussion and harmony. But most bass players understand the chord progressions and scales that a guitar is playing. Some guitar players just ain’t too smart. Give them a break. So long as they vote Democratic. Pt
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>ain’t too smart. > Give them a break. > So long as they vote Democratic.
You mean Democrat?
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>>ain’t too smart. > Give them a break. > So long as they vote Democratic. >You mean Democrat?
Maybe Democratically. Pt – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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I am also a guitarist / bassist. The most common guitar player "mistake", or tendency that I don’t like, is the notion that the guitarist’s role is to constantly strum chords. On electric guitar I prefer players like Edge from U2 who play catchy licks as opposed to constantly strumming. He adds icing to the cake. When he plays he can add chill bumps with a well placed swell or accents. He sort of works around everybody else by accenting. This is something I like to do but there is not as much opportunity to play like this on the bass guitar. On acoustic I like players like Dave Matthews and Ani DiFranco who also vary from standard strumming patterns. Dave seems to write built-in pockets for the bass to fall into. Jordan
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Like some others here I play both guitar and bass. > There are many posts here about ignorant guitar players. > And for the most part I agree. > Many guitar players don’t know the first thing about percussion and > harmony. > But most bass players understand the chord progressions and scales > that a guitar is playing. > Some guitar players just ain’t too smart. > Give them a break. > So long as they vote Democratic. > Pt
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>On acoustic I like players like Dave Matthews and Ani DiFranco who also vary >from standard strumming patterns. Dave seems to write built-in pockets for >the bass to fall into. >Jordan
The average guitar player does not consider the bass player. He is too wrapped up in himself. We are lucky to understand both instruments and their places. Pt
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Only a guitar wanker who "goes both ways" would vote Democrat.
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> >ain’t too smart. > Give them a break. > So long as they vote Democratic. > You mean Democrat?
Cut the guitarist some slack. As he said, they "ain’t too smart."
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I play both guitar and bass, but I don’t consider myself a "lead guitarist", in the stereotypical sense. What I do not like about many guitarists, certainly not all, is that a good many of them think that they are the center of the musical universe, are born leaders and that God granted them the duty of being expert at everything and in charge of everyone. Oh, and many of these types play too damned loud. There, I think that pretty much covers it. <G> Ed Cregger
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>I play both guitar and bass, but I don’t consider myself a "lead guitarist", >in the stereotypical sense. >What I do not like about many guitarists, certainly not all, is that a good >many of them think that they are the center of the musical universe, are >born leaders and that God granted them the duty of being expert at >everything and in charge of everyone. Oh, and many of these types play too >damned loud. >There, I think that pretty much covers it. <G> >Ed Cregger
I think the same of lead singers. LSD Lead Singer Dysfunction. Pt
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I gotta go with keyboardists. They think that because they can play lead, melody, and chords, that everyone should read their minds and follow their parts exactly. And unlike the typical crazy good-time guitar player, piano players are just freakin’ weird space aliens. — Learning funk bass? visit www.js3jazz.com/store.htm "Speaking the Truth in times of Universal deceit is a revolutionary act." — George Orwell
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I play both guitar and bass, but I don’t consider myself a "lead guitarist", >in the stereotypical sense. >What I do not like about many guitarists, certainly not all, is that a good >many of them think that they are the center of the musical universe, are >born leaders and that God granted them the duty of being expert at >everything and in charge of everyone. Oh, and many of these types play too >damned loud. >There, I think that pretty much covers it. <G> >Ed Cregger > I think the same of lead singers. > LSD > Lead Singer Dysfunction. > Pt
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>I gotta go with keyboardists. They think that because they can play lead, >melody, and chords, that everyone should read their minds and follow their >parts exactly. >And unlike the typical crazy good-time guitar player, piano players are just >freakin’ weird space aliens.
The keyboard player I play with is very good and does not step on the guitar player or bass players toes. But he is very weird. Pt
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I gotta go with keyboardists. They think that because they can play lead, >melody, and chords, that everyone should read their minds and follow their >parts exactly. >And unlike the typical crazy good-time guitar player, piano players are just >freakin’ weird space aliens. > The keyboard player I play with is very good and does not step on the > guitar player or bass players toes. > But he is very weird. > Pt
Weird eh? I play piano and bass (but not at the same time). Heck, half the time I walk around with a jazz combo playing in my head the rest of the time it’s either blues licks with Hammond organ or rock and synth. Either way it gets kinda loud in here at times. It gives me a good link between the rhythm section and the lead. I’m sitting in on bass with a 5 piece playing blues at the moment. It’s nice to be able to hold down the bottom, dig a nice groove and follow the lead around a bit. Cool stuff. "It’s just the normal noises in here!"
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> I gotta go with keyboardists. They think that because they can play lead, > melody, and chords, that everyone should read their minds and follow their > parts exactly. > And unlike the typical crazy good-time guitar player, piano players are just > freakin’ weird space aliens.
John, you do quite a bit of jazz gigging, based on your posts. Don’t you hate it when a keyboardist insists on playing walking bass or other figures, and when notes clash (since you are not psychically linked twins, they will!), they look at YOU like YOU have the damn problem. I had to tell one cat that the best thing for him to do would be to just take his left hand and grab his trousers to resist the urge to comp bass. The tune was some jazz standard, and he was used to playing it a certain way, minus bass player.
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pip pip… i’ve dealt with all kinds. right now, i’m really lucky to be playing with a great bunch of guys. most of the time, we all play nice and share our toys at recess. occassionally, someone’ll come in with a bad mood, but ya gotta forgive that sometimes. i like that my gtr player and i can talk about gtr on an level plain. he doesn’t think i’m a goofy gtr player, he knows that i know what i’m talking about. (at least sometimes i do) he’s pretty damn good himself. i can mimic his rhythm playing pretty good, but he’s a great lead player. very unconventional and creative, but sparse. very ace frehley sometimes. we get on extremely well just sitting around and strumming acoustics together. not all guitarists are that cool tho. "Pt" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The average guitar player does not consider the bass player. > He is too wrapped up in himself. > We are lucky to understand both instruments and their places. > Pt
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