Tuning
Question:
I am learning some of my favorite bands songs. On alot of them, it says that the guitar should have a drop d tuning. What does that mean and how would I tune my guitar like this? Thanks.
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> It means that your low E needs to be dropped a half step to D.
actually that’s a full step you’ve got to detune your low E > The easiest way to do this is to play the D string (4th) and then tune the > 6th string down until they are in tune together. (One octave apart, of > course). You can also use any ordinary electronic tuner, just tune down > until it shows that you’ve tuned to a D. (If it’s not a chromatic tuner, > don’t worry. It will just light up the middle D)
To explain this a little bit more graphically: The resulting tuning would be DADGBe instead of EADGBe Remember that you now just need on finger to fret a powerchord. A F5 (a F powerchord – root and quint) in stadard tuning would look like e |—– B |—– G |—– D |–3– A |–3– E |–1– in drop-d it would be e |—– B |—– G |—– D |–3– A |–3– E |–3– rock on dudes Satorian
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> To explain this a little bit more graphically: The resulting tuning would be > DADGBe instead of EADGBe > Remember that you now just need on finger to fret a powerchord. > A F5 (a F powerchord – root and quint) in stadard tuning would look like > e |—– > B |—– > G |—– > D |–3– > A |–3– > E |–1– > in drop-d it would be > e |—– > B |—– > G |—– > D |–3– > A |–3– > E |–3– > rock on dudes > Satorian
ooops, that part in my last post was meant for the original posting… nevermind 
Satorian
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: When I tune my guitar I notice the pitch not being constant. The pitch : changes both in time (goes down in less than a second after I pick the : string), and depending on how hard (loud) I pick the string (the : louder I do it the higher the pitch). Is this normal, or is it that : the guitar is cheap? Gabe, When tuning, you can eliminate much of the harmonic overtones, and the sharpening of the note during the initial attack by picking at the mid point of the string. This means picking the string directly above the twelth fret for an open string. I would, however, recommend learning to tune by ear. Tuning by ear is an excellent method for training your ear in general. I’m a huge fan of electronic tuners, though. For a gig or a jam session or any other situation where you need to tune up quickly and there may be too much noise, grab the tuner and go for it. For a practice session at home, make tuning by ear part of your practice. Grab the tuner and check how close you are after you’ve tuned by ear. If you’re off, shut off the tuner, slack the strings a little, and try again. Grab the tuner, check again. The following link is a link to the tuning method that works the best for me. Who knows, it may work for you as well. http://users.adelphia.net/~cygnusx_1/equal_temperament.html Good luck! "You’re just jealous because the voices only talk to me!"
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It is normal. When a string is first struck, it will sound a bit sharp and then levels off…and the harder it is struck, the more obvious the effect. It also depends on where on the string’s length you strike it. It shouldn’t be horribly obvious to the ear, but can easily be seen on an electronic tuner. -=weasel=-
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> When I tune my guitar I notice the pitch not being constant. The pitch > changes both in time (goes down in less than a second after I pick the > string), and depending on how hard (loud) I pick the string (the > louder I do it the higher the pitch). Is this normal, or is it that > the guitar is cheap? > Thanks > Gabe
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > It is normal. When a string is first struck, it will sound a bit sharp and > then levels off…and the harder it is struck, the more obvious the effect. > It also depends on where on the string’s length you strike it. It shouldn’t > be horribly obvious to the ear, but can easily be seen on an electronic > tuner. > -=weasel=- > When I tune my guitar I notice the pitch not being constant. The pitch > changes both in time (goes down in less than a second after I pick the > string), and depending on how hard (loud) I pick the string (the > louder I do it the higher the pitch). Is this normal, or is it that > the guitar is cheap? > Thanks > Gabe
Also, keep in mind that certain harmonic overtones are decaying as the note rings out, and this will change the way the note sounds. I find that when I pick gently, my string’ pitches are stable…in any case, though, i find that after they ring for a few seconds they start to flatten out…therefore i reccommend that when using an electronic tuner, you pick once every 2 or 3 seconds. This is why I taught myself to tune by ear–the electronic stuff gets on my nerve. When i need to be in concert pitch (which is rare) I play .wav files on my computer with all the notes for Standard Tuning, or else I get whoever I’m playing with to tune up first, then tune to them.
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When I tune my guitar I notice the pitch not being constant. The pitch changes both in time (goes down in less than a second after I pick the string), and depending on how hard (loud) I pick the string (the louder I do it the higher the pitch). Is this normal, or is it that the guitar is cheap? Thanks Gabe
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I just noticed that even though the strings are tuned, the pitch at each fret on my bass varies about 5-10 cents. Is this normal? I have a reissue (recent) of a 1962 Fender jazz bass and I’m using a direct feed into a Korg tuner, if that helps. Also, I can’t afford an amp yet, so I’m just patching through on aux in an old stereo I bought in high school, for learning purposes. My E string sounds a lot louder and a lot more "twangy" than the others. Is this just the stereo, or is it the bass? Thanks in advance. Dahner
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>I just noticed that even though the strings are tuned, the pitch at each >fret on my bass varies about 5-10 cents. Is this normal? I have a reissue >(recent) of a 1962 Fender jazz bass and I’m using a direct feed into a >Korg tuner, if that helps.
Probably normal. How big is 5-10 cents? When you fret the string it will naturally go sharp as you increase the tension, although if you could here this I’d be shocked (and all stringed instrument players would be out of business, except harpists). If the bass’s action was way off, this might happen, but I think that you’ve have mentioned some other symptoms (like the strings being a half inch off the fretboard) if it were so. >Also, I can’t afford an amp yet, so I’m just patching through on aux in >an old stereo I bought in high school, for learning purposes. My E >string sounds a lot louder and a lot more "twangy" than the others. Is >this just the stereo, or is it the bass? Thanks in advance.
Probably the bass, you can probably fix it most easily by tightening the pickup screw on the E-string side a turn or two, or loosening it on the G-string side. If it’s not that, then I’d think it’s the stereo though I couldn’t really guess why. Maybe the E string is newer than the other strings on the bass? That’d do it perhaps. — The trouble is that even the nineteenth century occultists fell victim to the spirit of positivism – a thing is true only if it can be proved. Umberto Eco
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I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! this is very bad!! Do U have an idea Andi
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> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
Try a different brand of string. — SPAM-GUARD! Remove "user.", if present, from address to email me.
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I would look at the tuning pegs, they are probably slipping and need to be better quality.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
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check the bridge – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are >dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I >have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! >Do U have an idea >Andi
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Pray to the tuning gods for better tuning.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
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Do all the strings de-tune together? If so, it might be a neck or bridge problem. If its just one or two strings, it might be the tuning heads. I don’t want to sound condescending here but I don’t know how long you have been playing. ALWAYS tune up to the note, NEVER down. Also, hot lights, and even the heat of your hands can cause the strings to expand and the pitch to drop so warm up a bit before you tune. Capnron Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com
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One thing that always gets over looked is how the strings are installed in the first place. If the strings are not properly wound around the tuner as to lock themselves in place they will continually go out of tune. The correct way to string a guitar or bass is covered quite well in any of the good books on repair or maintenance. You could also take your bass to a good tech and ask them if it is strung properly. If it isn’t I’m sure they would be willing to show you how. Before you spend a dime on new tuners or repairs make sure this is not the cause of the problem.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
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>I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it >says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass >for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had >to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about >tuning it to the Eb tuning?
Still doing that bass tab, huh? See, I warned you you were short changing yourself with regards to musical proficiency….but would you listen??? NO!!! Assuming your A string is tuned correctly, tune the E string so the 6th fret on the E string sounds with the same note, instead of the 5th fret
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> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, > and it says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)".
In my best Darth Vader voice … "William, cast off the G string and embrace a low-B string to change the open strings of your 4-string from EADG to BEAD. Come feel the power of the low bass rumble from the notes on the low-B string (and the expense of the low-B string). This is your destiny …" > Ive only been playing bass for a few months and have no previous > musical experience,
I welcome you to the newbiehood. Myself, I feel like I am one of the questors in the movie of the Wizard Of Oz because, in my case, I am searching for an ear for music. > and ive never had to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG > tuning. How do I go about tuning it to the Eb tuning?
I have a chromatic tuner, a Seiko ST-747 to be exact. There are other manufacturers of chromatic tuners such as Korg and Yamaha. A chromatic tuner is what you need. Here is a link that may help: http://www.zone0ne.com/bassics/html/tunebass.htm Doug
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> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it > says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass > for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had > to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about > tuning it to the Eb tuning?
Hi, What they mean by dropped Eb is the tuning Eb Ab Db Gb. The best way to go about tuning to Eb flat is to buy a tuner. They are so inexpensive these days you can’t go wrong and it will make life easier when you have to tune back up to standard tuning. Make sure you get a chromatic tuner:-) –Roger
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Many thanks for the advice. I AM trying to do some things by ear nowadays, I guess I just got a bit lazy… Ill go any buy myself a half decent tuner at the weekend, I do have one at the mo but its not great. Ill try that BEAD thing tonight doug. As I mentioned earlier I have no previous musical experience, but I really love the bass (I personally have never wanted to play the electric guitar, always bass), but one thing that I think limits me is that I dont know enough music ‘theory’, you know how songs fit together with respect to the different instruments in a band, are there any good books that would help me learn more about this kind of stuff?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it > says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass > for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never > had > to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go > about > tuning it to the Eb tuning? > Hi, > What they mean by dropped Eb is the tuning Eb Ab Db Gb. The best > way to go about tuning to Eb flat is to buy a tuner. They are so inexpensive > these days you can’t go wrong and it will make life easier when you have to > tune back up to standard tuning. Make sure you get a chromatic tuner:-) > –Roger
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> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it > says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass > for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had > to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about > tuning it to the Eb tuning?
Match the "E" string with the "A" string, 6th fret sound (one octave higher) This will give you Eb. When you’re ready to return to standard tuning, get your half step back by matching your lowest string to the "A" string, 7th fret. Sometimes people go ahead and drop to "D" (grunge, folk, etc.) and change the fingering up one fret on that lowest string. This reduces the number of tunings you have to keep in your mind. Terry
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> Many thanks for the advice. > I AM trying to do some things by ear nowadays, I guess I just > got a bit lazy…
In my opinion, if you are experimenting to see if you can get the bass in tune by ear, then go ahead. But, use your tuner afterwards to see how close you got it tune and to get the bass in tune. Otherwise, you may be incorrectly learning what the sound of the notes are. > Ill go any buy myself a half decent tuner at the weekend, I do > have one at the mo but its not great. > Ill try that BEAD thing tonight doug.
YIKES!!! I did not know my Darth Vader voice was so compelling! In all seriousness, experiment. Give the BEAD string- ing a try. You may need to make a slight truss rod adjustment as the BEAD stringing may exert more force on the neck than the EADG stringing. You may need to widen, not deepen, the nut to accomodate the B-string. > As I mentioned earlier I have no previous musical experience,
Same here. (Well, I had a few acoustic guitar lessons in my early years but the acoustic guitar and I did not get along together.) > but I really love the bass
Same here. > (I personally have never wanted to play the electric guitar, > always bass),
In my youth, I just wanted the means to have women chase after me. On the surface, being an electric guitar player seemed a way for this fantasy to come true. Didn’t make it as a rock star. Didn’t make it as a screen idol. Didn’t make it as a sports celeb. Didn’t make it as a business tycoon. But, I am having a quiet and pleasant time now learning to play my BEAD electric bass guitar. She is easy to get along with, not like my computer. > but one thing that I think limits me is that I dont know > enough music ‘theory’, you know how songs fit together with > respect to the different instruments in a band,
Take a look at the following web site: http://www.harmony-central.com/Bass/Lessons/ This web site provides some instruction on the role of the electric bass guitar. I guess that I am on Lesson #1 – The Role of the Bassline. For me, I am in my first attempt to decipher the bassline from a song. Playing bass to other instruments is far, far in the future for me. From the stories and comments from the others on the newgroup, my primary focus when playing bass to other instruments is to "lock with the drummer". I have an idea of what this means, but I really will not know what it means until it occurs. I am at the stage of learning where I should find a bass instructor rather than peck away at a bassline on my own. > are there any good books that would help me learn more about > this kind of stuff?
Some of the people on the newsgroup have mentioned the following instructional books as being very good: http://www.edfriedland.com/books.html I have not got any of them, so I do not know about their content. Have fun. Doug
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I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about tuning it to the Eb tuning?
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I just noticed that even though the strings are tuned, the pitch at each fret on my bass varies about 5-10 cents. Is this normal? I have a reissue (recent) of a 1962 Fender jazz bass and I’m using a direct feed into a Korg tuner, if that helps. Also, I can’t afford an amp yet, so I’m just patching through on aux in an old stereo I bought in high school, for learning purposes. My E string sounds a lot louder and a lot more "twangy" than the others. Is this just the stereo, or is it the bass? Thanks in advance. Dahner
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>I just noticed that even though the strings are tuned, the pitch at each >fret on my bass varies about 5-10 cents. Is this normal? I have a reissue >(recent) of a 1962 Fender jazz bass and I’m using a direct feed into a >Korg tuner, if that helps.
Probably normal. How big is 5-10 cents? When you fret the string it will naturally go sharp as you increase the tension, although if you could here this I’d be shocked (and all stringed instrument players would be out of business, except harpists). If the bass’s action was way off, this might happen, but I think that you’ve have mentioned some other symptoms (like the strings being a half inch off the fretboard) if it were so. >Also, I can’t afford an amp yet, so I’m just patching through on aux in >an old stereo I bought in high school, for learning purposes. My E >string sounds a lot louder and a lot more "twangy" than the others. Is >this just the stereo, or is it the bass? Thanks in advance.
Probably the bass, you can probably fix it most easily by tightening the pickup screw on the E-string side a turn or two, or loosening it on the G-string side. If it’s not that, then I’d think it’s the stereo though I couldn’t really guess why. Maybe the E string is newer than the other strings on the bass? That’d do it perhaps. — The trouble is that even the nineteenth century occultists fell victim to the spirit of positivism – a thing is true only if it can be proved. Umberto Eco
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I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! this is very bad!! Do U have an idea Andi
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> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
Try a different brand of string. — SPAM-GUARD! Remove "user.", if present, from address to email me.
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I would look at the tuning pegs, they are probably slipping and need to be better quality.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
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check the bridge – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are >dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I >have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! >Do U have an idea >Andi
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Pray to the tuning gods for better tuning.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
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Do all the strings de-tune together? If so, it might be a neck or bridge problem. If its just one or two strings, it might be the tuning heads. I don’t want to sound condescending here but I don’t know how long you have been playing. ALWAYS tune up to the note, NEVER down. Also, hot lights, and even the heat of your hands can cause the strings to expand and the pitch to drop so warm up a bit before you tune. Capnron Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com
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One thing that always gets over looked is how the strings are installed in the first place. If the strings are not properly wound around the tuner as to lock themselves in place they will continually go out of tune. The correct way to string a guitar or bass is covered quite well in any of the good books on repair or maintenance. You could also take your bass to a good tech and ask them if it is strung properly. If it isn’t I’m sure they would be willing to show you how. Before you spend a dime on new tuners or repairs make sure this is not the cause of the problem.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
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>I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it >says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass >for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had >to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about >tuning it to the Eb tuning?
Still doing that bass tab, huh? See, I warned you you were short changing yourself with regards to musical proficiency….but would you listen??? NO!!! Assuming your A string is tuned correctly, tune the E string so the 6th fret on the E string sounds with the same note, instead of the 5th fret
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> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, > and it says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)".
In my best Darth Vader voice … "William, cast off the G string and embrace a low-B string to change the open strings of your 4-string from EADG to BEAD. Come feel the power of the low bass rumble from the notes on the low-B string (and the expense of the low-B string). This is your destiny …" > Ive only been playing bass for a few months and have no previous > musical experience,
I welcome you to the newbiehood. Myself, I feel like I am one of the questors in the movie of the Wizard Of Oz because, in my case, I am searching for an ear for music. > and ive never had to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG > tuning. How do I go about tuning it to the Eb tuning?
I have a chromatic tuner, a Seiko ST-747 to be exact. There are other manufacturers of chromatic tuners such as Korg and Yamaha. A chromatic tuner is what you need. Here is a link that may help: http://www.zone0ne.com/bassics/html/tunebass.htm Doug
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> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it > says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass > for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had > to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about > tuning it to the Eb tuning?
Hi, What they mean by dropped Eb is the tuning Eb Ab Db Gb. The best way to go about tuning to Eb flat is to buy a tuner. They are so inexpensive these days you can’t go wrong and it will make life easier when you have to tune back up to standard tuning. Make sure you get a chromatic tuner:-) –Roger
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Many thanks for the advice. I AM trying to do some things by ear nowadays, I guess I just got a bit lazy… Ill go any buy myself a half decent tuner at the weekend, I do have one at the mo but its not great. Ill try that BEAD thing tonight doug. As I mentioned earlier I have no previous musical experience, but I really love the bass (I personally have never wanted to play the electric guitar, always bass), but one thing that I think limits me is that I dont know enough music ‘theory’, you know how songs fit together with respect to the different instruments in a band, are there any good books that would help me learn more about this kind of stuff?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it > says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass > for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never > had > to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go > about > tuning it to the Eb tuning? > Hi, > What they mean by dropped Eb is the tuning Eb Ab Db Gb. The best > way to go about tuning to Eb flat is to buy a tuner. They are so inexpensive > these days you can’t go wrong and it will make life easier when you have to > tune back up to standard tuning. Make sure you get a chromatic tuner:-) > –Roger
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> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it > says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass > for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had > to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about > tuning it to the Eb tuning?
Match the "E" string with the "A" string, 6th fret sound (one octave higher) This will give you Eb. When you’re ready to return to standard tuning, get your half step back by matching your lowest string to the "A" string, 7th fret. Sometimes people go ahead and drop to "D" (grunge, folk, etc.) and change the fingering up one fret on that lowest string. This reduces the number of tunings you have to keep in your mind. Terry
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> Many thanks for the advice. > I AM trying to do some things by ear nowadays, I guess I just > got a bit lazy…
In my opinion, if you are experimenting to see if you can get the bass in tune by ear, then go ahead. But, use your tuner afterwards to see how close you got it tune and to get the bass in tune. Otherwise, you may be incorrectly learning what the sound of the notes are. > Ill go any buy myself a half decent tuner at the weekend, I do > have one at the mo but its not great. > Ill try that BEAD thing tonight doug.
YIKES!!! I did not know my Darth Vader voice was so compelling! In all seriousness, experiment. Give the BEAD string- ing a try. You may need to make a slight truss rod adjustment as the BEAD stringing may exert more force on the neck than the EADG stringing. You may need to widen, not deepen, the nut to accomodate the B-string. > As I mentioned earlier I have no previous musical experience,
Same here. (Well, I had a few acoustic guitar lessons in my early years but the acoustic guitar and I did not get along together.) > but I really love the bass
Same here. > (I personally have never wanted to play the electric guitar, > always bass),
In my youth, I just wanted the means to have women chase after me. On the surface, being an electric guitar player seemed a way for this fantasy to come true. Didn’t make it as a rock star. Didn’t make it as a screen idol. Didn’t make it as a sports celeb. Didn’t make it as a business tycoon. But, I am having a quiet and pleasant time now learning to play my BEAD electric bass guitar. She is easy to get along with, not like my computer. > but one thing that I think limits me is that I dont know > enough music ‘theory’, you know how songs fit together with > respect to the different instruments in a band,
Take a look at the following web site: http://www.harmony-central.com/Bass/Lessons/ This web site provides some instruction on the role of the electric bass guitar. I guess that I am on Lesson #1 – The Role of the Bassline. For me, I am in my first attempt to decipher the bassline from a song. Playing bass to other instruments is far, far in the future for me. From the stories and comments from the others on the newgroup, my primary focus when playing bass to other instruments is to "lock with the drummer". I have an idea of what this means, but I really will not know what it means until it occurs. I am at the stage of learning where I should find a bass instructor rather than peck away at a bassline on my own. > are there any good books that would help me learn more about > this kind of stuff?
Some of the people on the newsgroup have mentioned the following instructional books as being very good: http://www.edfriedland.com/books.html I have not got any of them, so I do not know about their content. Have fun. Doug
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I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about tuning it to the Eb tuning?
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I just noticed that even though the strings are tuned, the pitch at each fret on my bass varies about 5-10 cents. Is this normal? I have a reissue (recent) of a 1962 Fender jazz bass and I’m using a direct feed into a Korg tuner, if that helps. Also, I can’t afford an amp yet, so I’m just patching through on aux in an old stereo I bought in high school, for learning purposes. My E string sounds a lot louder and a lot more "twangy" than the others. Is this just the stereo, or is it the bass? Thanks in advance. Dahner
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>I just noticed that even though the strings are tuned, the pitch at each >fret on my bass varies about 5-10 cents. Is this normal? I have a reissue >(recent) of a 1962 Fender jazz bass and I’m using a direct feed into a >Korg tuner, if that helps.
Probably normal. How big is 5-10 cents? When you fret the string it will naturally go sharp as you increase the tension, although if you could here this I’d be shocked (and all stringed instrument players would be out of business, except harpists). If the bass’s action was way off, this might happen, but I think that you’ve have mentioned some other symptoms (like the strings being a half inch off the fretboard) if it were so. >Also, I can’t afford an amp yet, so I’m just patching through on aux in >an old stereo I bought in high school, for learning purposes. My E >string sounds a lot louder and a lot more "twangy" than the others. Is >this just the stereo, or is it the bass? Thanks in advance.
Probably the bass, you can probably fix it most easily by tightening the pickup screw on the E-string side a turn or two, or loosening it on the G-string side. If it’s not that, then I’d think it’s the stereo though I couldn’t really guess why. Maybe the E string is newer than the other strings on the bass? That’d do it perhaps. — The trouble is that even the nineteenth century occultists fell victim to the spirit of positivism – a thing is true only if it can be proved. Umberto Eco
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I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! this is very bad!! Do U have an idea Andi
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> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
Try a different brand of string. — SPAM-GUARD! Remove "user.", if present, from address to email me.
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I would look at the tuning pegs, they are probably slipping and need to be better quality.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
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check the bridge – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are >dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I >have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! >Do U have an idea >Andi
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Pray to the tuning gods for better tuning.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
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Do all the strings de-tune together? If so, it might be a neck or bridge problem. If its just one or two strings, it might be the tuning heads. I don’t want to sound condescending here but I don’t know how long you have been playing. ALWAYS tune up to the note, NEVER down. Also, hot lights, and even the heat of your hands can cause the strings to expand and the pitch to drop so warm up a bit before you tune. Capnron Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com
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One thing that always gets over looked is how the strings are installed in the first place. If the strings are not properly wound around the tuner as to lock themselves in place they will continually go out of tune. The correct way to string a guitar or bass is covered quite well in any of the good books on repair or maintenance. You could also take your bass to a good tech and ask them if it is strung properly. If it isn’t I’m sure they would be willing to show you how. Before you spend a dime on new tuners or repairs make sure this is not the cause of the problem.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
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>I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it >says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass >for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had >to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about >tuning it to the Eb tuning?
Still doing that bass tab, huh? See, I warned you you were short changing yourself with regards to musical proficiency….but would you listen??? NO!!! Assuming your A string is tuned correctly, tune the E string so the 6th fret on the E string sounds with the same note, instead of the 5th fret
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> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, > and it says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)".
In my best Darth Vader voice … "William, cast off the G string and embrace a low-B string to change the open strings of your 4-string from EADG to BEAD. Come feel the power of the low bass rumble from the notes on the low-B string (and the expense of the low-B string). This is your destiny …" > Ive only been playing bass for a few months and have no previous > musical experience,
I welcome you to the newbiehood. Myself, I feel like I am one of the questors in the movie of the Wizard Of Oz because, in my case, I am searching for an ear for music. > and ive never had to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG > tuning. How do I go about tuning it to the Eb tuning?
I have a chromatic tuner, a Seiko ST-747 to be exact. There are other manufacturers of chromatic tuners such as Korg and Yamaha. A chromatic tuner is what you need. Here is a link that may help: http://www.zone0ne.com/bassics/html/tunebass.htm Doug
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> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it > says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass > for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had > to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about > tuning it to the Eb tuning?
Hi, What they mean by dropped Eb is the tuning Eb Ab Db Gb. The best way to go about tuning to Eb flat is to buy a tuner. They are so inexpensive these days you can’t go wrong and it will make life easier when you have to tune back up to standard tuning. Make sure you get a chromatic tuner:-) –Roger
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Many thanks for the advice. I AM trying to do some things by ear nowadays, I guess I just got a bit lazy… Ill go any buy myself a half decent tuner at the weekend, I do have one at the mo but its not great. Ill try that BEAD thing tonight doug. As I mentioned earlier I have no previous musical experience, but I really love the bass (I personally have never wanted to play the electric guitar, always bass), but one thing that I think limits me is that I dont know enough music ‘theory’, you know how songs fit together with respect to the different instruments in a band, are there any good books that would help me learn more about this kind of stuff?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it > says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass > for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never > had > to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go > about > tuning it to the Eb tuning? > Hi, > What they mean by dropped Eb is the tuning Eb Ab Db Gb. The best > way to go about tuning to Eb flat is to buy a tuner. They are so inexpensive > these days you can’t go wrong and it will make life easier when you have to > tune back up to standard tuning. Make sure you get a chromatic tuner:-) > –Roger
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> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it > says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass > for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had > to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about > tuning it to the Eb tuning?
Match the "E" string with the "A" string, 6th fret sound (one octave higher) This will give you Eb. When you’re ready to return to standard tuning, get your half step back by matching your lowest string to the "A" string, 7th fret. Sometimes people go ahead and drop to "D" (grunge, folk, etc.) and change the fingering up one fret on that lowest string. This reduces the number of tunings you have to keep in your mind. Terry
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> Many thanks for the advice. > I AM trying to do some things by ear nowadays, I guess I just > got a bit lazy…
In my opinion, if you are experimenting to see if you can get the bass in tune by ear, then go ahead. But, use your tuner afterwards to see how close you got it tune and to get the bass in tune. Otherwise, you may be incorrectly learning what the sound of the notes are. > Ill go any buy myself a half decent tuner at the weekend, I do > have one at the mo but its not great. > Ill try that BEAD thing tonight doug.
YIKES!!! I did not know my Darth Vader voice was so compelling! In all seriousness, experiment. Give the BEAD string- ing a try. You may need to make a slight truss rod adjustment as the BEAD stringing may exert more force on the neck than the EADG stringing. You may need to widen, not deepen, the nut to accomodate the B-string. > As I mentioned earlier I have no previous musical experience,
Same here. (Well, I had a few acoustic guitar lessons in my early years but the acoustic guitar and I did not get along together.) > but I really love the bass
Same here. > (I personally have never wanted to play the electric guitar, > always bass),
In my youth, I just wanted the means to have women chase after me. On the surface, being an electric guitar player seemed a way for this fantasy to come true. Didn’t make it as a rock star. Didn’t make it as a screen idol. Didn’t make it as a sports celeb. Didn’t make it as a business tycoon. But, I am having a quiet and pleasant time now learning to play my BEAD electric bass guitar. She is easy to get along with, not like my computer. > but one thing that I think limits me is that I dont know > enough music ‘theory’, you know how songs fit together with > respect to the different instruments in a band,
Take a look at the following web site: http://www.harmony-central.com/Bass/Lessons/ This web site provides some instruction on the role of the electric bass guitar. I guess that I am on Lesson #1 – The Role of the Bassline. For me, I am in my first attempt to decipher the bassline from a song. Playing bass to other instruments is far, far in the future for me. From the stories and comments from the others on the newgroup, my primary focus when playing bass to other instruments is to "lock with the drummer". I have an idea of what this means, but I really will not know what it means until it occurs. I am at the stage of learning where I should find a bass instructor rather than peck away at a bassline on my own. > are there any good books that would help me learn more about > this kind of stuff?
Some of the people on the newsgroup have mentioned the following instructional books as being very good: http://www.edfriedland.com/books.html I have not got any of them, so I do not know about their content. Have fun. Doug
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I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about tuning it to the Eb tuning?
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I just noticed that even though the strings are tuned, the pitch at each fret on my bass varies about 5-10 cents. Is this normal? I have a reissue (recent) of a 1962 Fender jazz bass and I’m using a direct feed into a Korg tuner, if that helps. Also, I can’t afford an amp yet, so I’m just patching through on aux in an old stereo I bought in high school, for learning purposes. My E string sounds a lot louder and a lot more "twangy" than the others. Is this just the stereo, or is it the bass? Thanks in advance. Dahner
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>I just noticed that even though the strings are tuned, the pitch at each >fret on my bass varies about 5-10 cents. Is this normal? I have a reissue >(recent) of a 1962 Fender jazz bass and I’m using a direct feed into a >Korg tuner, if that helps.
Probably normal. How big is 5-10 cents? When you fret the string it will naturally go sharp as you increase the tension, although if you could here this I’d be shocked (and all stringed instrument players would be out of business, except harpists). If the bass’s action was way off, this might happen, but I think that you’ve have mentioned some other symptoms (like the strings being a half inch off the fretboard) if it were so. >Also, I can’t afford an amp yet, so I’m just patching through on aux in >an old stereo I bought in high school, for learning purposes. My E >string sounds a lot louder and a lot more "twangy" than the others. Is >this just the stereo, or is it the bass? Thanks in advance.
Probably the bass, you can probably fix it most easily by tightening the pickup screw on the E-string side a turn or two, or loosening it on the G-string side. If it’s not that, then I’d think it’s the stereo though I couldn’t really guess why. Maybe the E string is newer than the other strings on the bass? That’d do it perhaps. — The trouble is that even the nineteenth century occultists fell victim to the spirit of positivism – a thing is true only if it can be proved. Umberto Eco
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I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! this is very bad!! Do U have an idea Andi
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> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
Try a different brand of string. — SPAM-GUARD! Remove "user.", if present, from address to email me.
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I would look at the tuning pegs, they are probably slipping and need to be better quality.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
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check the bridge – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are >dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I >have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! >Do U have an idea >Andi
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Pray to the tuning gods for better tuning.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
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Do all the strings de-tune together? If so, it might be a neck or bridge problem. If its just one or two strings, it might be the tuning heads. I don’t want to sound condescending here but I don’t know how long you have been playing. ALWAYS tune up to the note, NEVER down. Also, hot lights, and even the heat of your hands can cause the strings to expand and the pitch to drop so warm up a bit before you tune. Capnron Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com
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One thing that always gets over looked is how the strings are installed in the first place. If the strings are not properly wound around the tuner as to lock themselves in place they will continually go out of tune. The correct way to string a guitar or bass is covered quite well in any of the good books on repair or maintenance. You could also take your bass to a good tech and ask them if it is strung properly. If it isn’t I’m sure they would be willing to show you how. Before you spend a dime on new tuners or repairs make sure this is not the cause of the problem.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
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>I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it >says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass >for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had >to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about >tuning it to the Eb tuning?
Still doing that bass tab, huh? See, I warned you you were short changing yourself with regards to musical proficiency….but would you listen??? NO!!! Assuming your A string is tuned correctly, tune the E string so the 6th fret on the E string sounds with the same note, instead of the 5th fret
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> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, > and it says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)".
In my best Darth Vader voice … "William, cast off the G string and embrace a low-B string to change the open strings of your 4-string from EADG to BEAD. Come feel the power of the low bass rumble from the notes on the low-B string (and the expense of the low-B string). This is your destiny …" > Ive only been playing bass for a few months and have no previous > musical experience,
I welcome you to the newbiehood. Myself, I feel like I am one of the questors in the movie of the Wizard Of Oz because, in my case, I am searching for an ear for music. > and ive never had to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG > tuning. How do I go about tuning it to the Eb tuning?
I have a chromatic tuner, a Seiko ST-747 to be exact. There are other manufacturers of chromatic tuners such as Korg and Yamaha. A chromatic tuner is what you need. Here is a link that may help: http://www.zone0ne.com/bassics/html/tunebass.htm Doug
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> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it > says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass > for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had > to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about > tuning it to the Eb tuning?
Hi, What they mean by dropped Eb is the tuning Eb Ab Db Gb. The best way to go about tuning to Eb flat is to buy a tuner. They are so inexpensive these days you can’t go wrong and it will make life easier when you have to tune back up to standard tuning. Make sure you get a chromatic tuner:-) –Roger
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Many thanks for the advice. I AM trying to do some things by ear nowadays, I guess I just got a bit lazy… Ill go any buy myself a half decent tuner at the weekend, I do have one at the mo but its not great. Ill try that BEAD thing tonight doug. As I mentioned earlier I have no previous musical experience, but I really love the bass (I personally have never wanted to play the electric guitar, always bass), but one thing that I think limits me is that I dont know enough music ‘theory’, you know how songs fit together with respect to the different instruments in a band, are there any good books that would help me learn more about this kind of stuff?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it > says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass > for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never > had > to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go > about > tuning it to the Eb tuning? > Hi, > What they mean by dropped Eb is the tuning Eb Ab Db Gb. The best > way to go about tuning to Eb flat is to buy a tuner. They are so inexpensive > these days you can’t go wrong and it will make life easier when you have to > tune back up to standard tuning. Make sure you get a chromatic tuner:-) > –Roger
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> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it > says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass > for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had > to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about > tuning it to the Eb tuning?
Match the "E" string with the "A" string, 6th fret sound (one octave higher) This will give you Eb. When you’re ready to return to standard tuning, get your half step back by matching your lowest string to the "A" string, 7th fret. Sometimes people go ahead and drop to "D" (grunge, folk, etc.) and change the fingering up one fret on that lowest string. This reduces the number of tunings you have to keep in your mind. Terry
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> Many thanks for the advice. > I AM trying to do some things by ear nowadays, I guess I just > got a bit lazy…
In my opinion, if you are experimenting to see if you can get the bass in tune by ear, then go ahead. But, use your tuner afterwards to see how close you got it tune and to get the bass in tune. Otherwise, you may be incorrectly learning what the sound of the notes are. > Ill go any buy myself a half decent tuner at the weekend, I do > have one at the mo but its not great. > Ill try that BEAD thing tonight doug.
YIKES!!! I did not know my Darth Vader voice was so compelling! In all seriousness, experiment. Give the BEAD string- ing a try. You may need to make a slight truss rod adjustment as the BEAD stringing may exert more force on the neck than the EADG stringing. You may need to widen, not deepen, the nut to accomodate the B-string. > As I mentioned earlier I have no previous musical experience,
Same here. (Well, I had a few acoustic guitar lessons in my early years but the acoustic guitar and I did not get along together.) > but I really love the bass
Same here. > (I personally have never wanted to play the electric guitar, > always bass),
In my youth, I just wanted the means to have women chase after me. On the surface, being an electric guitar player seemed a way for this fantasy to come true. Didn’t make it as a rock star. Didn’t make it as a screen idol. Didn’t make it as a sports celeb. Didn’t make it as a business tycoon. But, I am having a quiet and pleasant time now learning to play my BEAD electric bass guitar. She is easy to get along with, not like my computer. > but one thing that I think limits me is that I dont know > enough music ‘theory’, you know how songs fit together with > respect to the different instruments in a band,
Take a look at the following web site: http://www.harmony-central.com/Bass/Lessons/ This web site provides some instruction on the role of the electric bass guitar. I guess that I am on Lesson #1 – The Role of the Bassline. For me, I am in my first attempt to decipher the bassline from a song. Playing bass to other instruments is far, far in the future for me. From the stories and comments from the others on the newgroup, my primary focus when playing bass to other instruments is to "lock with the drummer". I have an idea of what this means, but I really will not know what it means until it occurs. I am at the stage of learning where I should find a bass instructor rather than peck away at a bassline on my own. > are there any good books that would help me learn more about > this kind of stuff?
Some of the people on the newsgroup have mentioned the following instructional books as being very good: http://www.edfriedland.com/books.html I have not got any of them, so I do not know about their content. Have fun. Doug
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I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about tuning it to the Eb tuning?
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I just noticed that even though the strings are tuned, the pitch at each fret on my bass varies about 5-10 cents. Is this normal? I have a reissue (recent) of a 1962 Fender jazz bass and I’m using a direct feed into a Korg tuner, if that helps. Also, I can’t afford an amp yet, so I’m just patching through on aux in an old stereo I bought in high school, for learning purposes. My E string sounds a lot louder and a lot more "twangy" than the others. Is this just the stereo, or is it the bass? Thanks in advance. Dahner
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>I just noticed that even though the strings are tuned, the pitch at each >fret on my bass varies about 5-10 cents. Is this normal? I have a reissue >(recent) of a 1962 Fender jazz bass and I’m using a direct feed into a >Korg tuner, if that helps.
Probably normal. How big is 5-10 cents? When you fret the string it will naturally go sharp as you increase the tension, although if you could here this I’d be shocked (and all stringed instrument players would be out of business, except harpists). If the bass’s action was way off, this might happen, but I think that you’ve have mentioned some other symptoms (like the strings being a half inch off the fretboard) if it were so. >Also, I can’t afford an amp yet, so I’m just patching through on aux in >an old stereo I bought in high school, for learning purposes. My E >string sounds a lot louder and a lot more "twangy" than the others. Is >this just the stereo, or is it the bass? Thanks in advance.
Probably the bass, you can probably fix it most easily by tightening the pickup screw on the E-string side a turn or two, or loosening it on the G-string side. If it’s not that, then I’d think it’s the stereo though I couldn’t really guess why. Maybe the E string is newer than the other strings on the bass? That’d do it perhaps. — The trouble is that even the nineteenth century occultists fell victim to the spirit of positivism – a thing is true only if it can be proved. Umberto Eco
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I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! this is very bad!! Do U have an idea Andi
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> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
Try a different brand of string. — SPAM-GUARD! Remove "user.", if present, from address to email me.
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I would look at the tuning pegs, they are probably slipping and need to be better quality.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
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check the bridge – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are >dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I >have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! >Do U have an idea >Andi
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Pray to the tuning gods for better tuning.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
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Do all the strings de-tune together? If so, it might be a neck or bridge problem. If its just one or two strings, it might be the tuning heads. I don’t want to sound condescending here but I don’t know how long you have been playing. ALWAYS tune up to the note, NEVER down. Also, hot lights, and even the heat of your hands can cause the strings to expand and the pitch to drop so warm up a bit before you tune. Capnron Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com
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One thing that always gets over looked is how the strings are installed in the first place. If the strings are not properly wound around the tuner as to lock themselves in place they will continually go out of tune. The correct way to string a guitar or bass is covered quite well in any of the good books on repair or maintenance. You could also take your bass to a good tech and ask them if it is strung properly. If it isn’t I’m sure they would be willing to show you how. Before you spend a dime on new tuners or repairs make sure this is not the cause of the problem.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
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>I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it >says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass >for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had >to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about >tuning it to the Eb tuning?
Still doing that bass tab, huh? See, I warned you you were short changing yourself with regards to musical proficiency….but would you listen??? NO!!! Assuming your A string is tuned correctly, tune the E string so the 6th fret on the E string sounds with the same note, instead of the 5th fret
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> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, > and it says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)".
In my best Darth Vader voice … "William, cast off the G string and embrace a low-B string to change the open strings of your 4-string from EADG to BEAD. Come feel the power of the low bass rumble from the notes on the low-B string (and the expense of the low-B string). This is your destiny …" > Ive only been playing bass for a few months and have no previous > musical experience,
I welcome you to the newbiehood. Myself, I feel like I am one of the questors in the movie of the Wizard Of Oz because, in my case, I am searching for an ear for music. > and ive never had to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG > tuning. How do I go about tuning it to the Eb tuning?
I have a chromatic tuner, a Seiko ST-747 to be exact. There are other manufacturers of chromatic tuners such as Korg and Yamaha. A chromatic tuner is what you need. Here is a link that may help: http://www.zone0ne.com/bassics/html/tunebass.htm Doug
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> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it > says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass > for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had > to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about > tuning it to the Eb tuning?
Hi, What they mean by dropped Eb is the tuning Eb Ab Db Gb. The best way to go about tuning to Eb flat is to buy a tuner. They are so inexpensive these days you can’t go wrong and it will make life easier when you have to tune back up to standard tuning. Make sure you get a chromatic tuner:-) –Roger
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Many thanks for the advice. I AM trying to do some things by ear nowadays, I guess I just got a bit lazy… Ill go any buy myself a half decent tuner at the weekend, I do have one at the mo but its not great. Ill try that BEAD thing tonight doug. As I mentioned earlier I have no previous musical experience, but I really love the bass (I personally have never wanted to play the electric guitar, always bass), but one thing that I think limits me is that I dont know enough music ‘theory’, you know how songs fit together with respect to the different instruments in a band, are there any good books that would help me learn more about this kind of stuff?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it > says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass > for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never > had > to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go > about > tuning it to the Eb tuning? > Hi, > What they mean by dropped Eb is the tuning Eb Ab Db Gb. The best > way to go about tuning to Eb flat is to buy a tuner. They are so inexpensive > these days you can’t go wrong and it will make life easier when you have to > tune back up to standard tuning. Make sure you get a chromatic tuner:-) > –Roger
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> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it > says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass > for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had > to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about > tuning it to the Eb tuning?
Match the "E" string with the "A" string, 6th fret sound (one octave higher) This will give you Eb. When you’re ready to return to standard tuning, get your half step back by matching your lowest string to the "A" string, 7th fret. Sometimes people go ahead and drop to "D" (grunge, folk, etc.) and change the fingering up one fret on that lowest string. This reduces the number of tunings you have to keep in your mind. Terry
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> Many thanks for the advice. > I AM trying to do some things by ear nowadays, I guess I just > got a bit lazy…
In my opinion, if you are experimenting to see if you can get the bass in tune by ear, then go ahead. But, use your tuner afterwards to see how close you got it tune and to get the bass in tune. Otherwise, you may be incorrectly learning what the sound of the notes are. > Ill go any buy myself a half decent tuner at the weekend, I do > have one at the mo but its not great. > Ill try that BEAD thing tonight doug.
YIKES!!! I did not know my Darth Vader voice was so compelling! In all seriousness, experiment. Give the BEAD string- ing a try. You may need to make a slight truss rod adjustment as the BEAD stringing may exert more force on the neck than the EADG stringing. You may need to widen, not deepen, the nut to accomodate the B-string. > As I mentioned earlier I have no previous musical experience,
Same here. (Well, I had a few acoustic guitar lessons in my early years but the acoustic guitar and I did not get along together.) > but I really love the bass
Same here. > (I personally have never wanted to play the electric guitar, > always bass),
In my youth, I just wanted the means to have women chase after me. On the surface, being an electric guitar player seemed a way for this fantasy to come true. Didn’t make it as a rock star. Didn’t make it as a screen idol. Didn’t make it as a sports celeb. Didn’t make it as a business tycoon. But, I am having a quiet and pleasant time now learning to play my BEAD electric bass guitar. She is easy to get along with, not like my computer. > but one thing that I think limits me is that I dont know > enough music ‘theory’, you know how songs fit together with > respect to the different instruments in a band,
Take a look at the following web site: http://www.harmony-central.com/Bass/Lessons/ This web site provides some instruction on the role of the electric bass guitar. I guess that I am on Lesson #1 – The Role of the Bassline. For me, I am in my first attempt to decipher the bassline from a song. Playing bass to other instruments is far, far in the future for me. From the stories and comments from the others on the newgroup, my primary focus when playing bass to other instruments is to "lock with the drummer". I have an idea of what this means, but I really will not know what it means until it occurs. I am at the stage of learning where I should find a bass instructor rather than peck away at a bassline on my own. > are there any good books that would help me learn more about > this kind of stuff?
Some of the people on the newsgroup have mentioned the following instructional books as being very good: http://www.edfriedland.com/books.html I have not got any of them, so I do not know about their content. Have fun. Doug
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I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about tuning it to the Eb tuning?
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I just noticed that even though the strings are tuned, the pitch at each fret on my bass varies about 5-10 cents. Is this normal? I have a reissue (recent) of a 1962 Fender jazz bass and I’m using a direct feed into a Korg tuner, if that helps. Also, I can’t afford an amp yet, so I’m just patching through on aux in an old stereo I bought in high school, for learning purposes. My E string sounds a lot louder and a lot more "twangy" than the others. Is this just the stereo, or is it the bass? Thanks in advance. Dahner
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>I just noticed that even though the strings are tuned, the pitch at each >fret on my bass varies about 5-10 cents. Is this normal? I have a reissue >(recent) of a 1962 Fender jazz bass and I’m using a direct feed into a >Korg tuner, if that helps.
Probably normal. How big is 5-10 cents? When you fret the string it will naturally go sharp as you increase the tension, although if you could here this I’d be shocked (and all stringed instrument players would be out of business, except harpists). If the bass’s action was way off, this might happen, but I think that you’ve have mentioned some other symptoms (like the strings being a half inch off the fretboard) if it were so. >Also, I can’t afford an amp yet, so I’m just patching through on aux in >an old stereo I bought in high school, for learning purposes. My E >string sounds a lot louder and a lot more "twangy" than the others. Is >this just the stereo, or is it the bass? Thanks in advance.
Probably the bass, you can probably fix it most easily by tightening the pickup screw on the E-string side a turn or two, or loosening it on the G-string side. If it’s not that, then I’d think it’s the stereo though I couldn’t really guess why. Maybe the E string is newer than the other strings on the bass? That’d do it perhaps. — The trouble is that even the nineteenth century occultists fell victim to the spirit of positivism – a thing is true only if it can be proved. Umberto Eco
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I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! this is very bad!! Do U have an idea Andi
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> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
Try a different brand of string. — SPAM-GUARD! Remove "user.", if present, from address to email me.
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I would look at the tuning pegs, they are probably slipping and need to be better quality.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
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check the bridge – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are >dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I >have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! >Do U have an idea >Andi
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Pray to the tuning gods for better tuning.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
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Do all the strings de-tune together? If so, it might be a neck or bridge problem. If its just one or two strings, it might be the tuning heads. I don’t want to sound condescending here but I don’t know how long you have been playing. ALWAYS tune up to the note, NEVER down. Also, hot lights, and even the heat of your hands can cause the strings to expand and the pitch to drop so warm up a bit before you tune. Capnron Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com
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One thing that always gets over looked is how the strings are installed in the first place. If the strings are not properly wound around the tuner as to lock themselves in place they will continually go out of tune. The correct way to string a guitar or bass is covered quite well in any of the good books on repair or maintenance. You could also take your bass to a good tech and ask them if it is strung properly. If it isn’t I’m sure they would be willing to show you how. Before you spend a dime on new tuners or repairs make sure this is not the cause of the problem.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
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>I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it >says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass >for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had >to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about >tuning it to the Eb tuning?
Still doing that bass tab, huh? See, I warned you you were short changing yourself with regards to musical proficiency….but would you listen??? NO!!! Assuming your A string is tuned correctly, tune the E string so the 6th fret on the E string sounds with the same note, instead of the 5th fret
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> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, > and it says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)".
In my best Darth Vader voice … "William, cast off the G string and embrace a low-B string to change the open strings of your 4-string from EADG to BEAD. Come feel the power of the low bass rumble from the notes on the low-B string (and the expense of the low-B string). This is your destiny …" > Ive only been playing bass for a few months and have no previous > musical experience,
I welcome you to the newbiehood. Myself, I feel like I am one of the questors in the movie of the Wizard Of Oz because, in my case, I am searching for an ear for music. > and ive never had to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG > tuning. How do I go about tuning it to the Eb tuning?
I have a chromatic tuner, a Seiko ST-747 to be exact. There are other manufacturers of chromatic tuners such as Korg and Yamaha. A chromatic tuner is what you need. Here is a link that may help: http://www.zone0ne.com/bassics/html/tunebass.htm Doug
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> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it > says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass > for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had > to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about > tuning it to the Eb tuning?
Hi, What they mean by dropped Eb is the tuning Eb Ab Db Gb. The best way to go about tuning to Eb flat is to buy a tuner. They are so inexpensive these days you can’t go wrong and it will make life easier when you have to tune back up to standard tuning. Make sure you get a chromatic tuner:-) –Roger
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Many thanks for the advice. I AM trying to do some things by ear nowadays, I guess I just got a bit lazy… Ill go any buy myself a half decent tuner at the weekend, I do have one at the mo but its not great. Ill try that BEAD thing tonight doug. As I mentioned earlier I have no previous musical experience, but I really love the bass (I personally have never wanted to play the electric guitar, always bass), but one thing that I think limits me is that I dont know enough music ‘theory’, you know how songs fit together with respect to the different instruments in a band, are there any good books that would help me learn more about this kind of stuff?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it > says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass > for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never > had > to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go > about > tuning it to the Eb tuning? > Hi, > What they mean by dropped Eb is the tuning Eb Ab Db Gb. The best > way to go about tuning to Eb flat is to buy a tuner. They are so inexpensive > these days you can’t go wrong and it will make life easier when you have to > tune back up to standard tuning. Make sure you get a chromatic tuner:-) > –Roger
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> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it > says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass > for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had > to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about > tuning it to the Eb tuning?
Match the "E" string with the "A" string, 6th fret sound (one octave higher) This will give you Eb. When you’re ready to return to standard tuning, get your half step back by matching your lowest string to the "A" string, 7th fret. Sometimes people go ahead and drop to "D" (grunge, folk, etc.) and change the fingering up one fret on that lowest string. This reduces the number of tunings you have to keep in your mind. Terry
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> Many thanks for the advice. > I AM trying to do some things by ear nowadays, I guess I just > got a bit lazy…
In my opinion, if you are experimenting to see if you can get the bass in tune by ear, then go ahead. But, use your tuner afterwards to see how close you got it tune and to get the bass in tune. Otherwise, you may be incorrectly learning what the sound of the notes are. > Ill go any buy myself a half decent tuner at the weekend, I do > have one at the mo but its not great. > Ill try that BEAD thing tonight doug.
YIKES!!! I did not know my Darth Vader voice was so compelling! In all seriousness, experiment. Give the BEAD string- ing a try. You may need to make a slight truss rod adjustment as the BEAD stringing may exert more force on the neck than the EADG stringing. You may need to widen, not deepen, the nut to accomodate the B-string. > As I mentioned earlier I have no previous musical experience,
Same here. (Well, I had a few acoustic guitar lessons in my early years but the acoustic guitar and I did not get along together.) > but I really love the bass
Same here. > (I personally have never wanted to play the electric guitar, > always bass),
In my youth, I just wanted the means to have women chase after me. On the surface, being an electric guitar player seemed a way for this fantasy to come true. Didn’t make it as a rock star. Didn’t make it as a screen idol. Didn’t make it as a sports celeb. Didn’t make it as a business tycoon. But, I am having a quiet and pleasant time now learning to play my BEAD electric bass guitar. She is easy to get along with, not like my computer. > but one thing that I think limits me is that I dont know > enough music ‘theory’, you know how songs fit together with > respect to the different instruments in a band,
Take a look at the following web site: http://www.harmony-central.com/Bass/Lessons/ This web site provides some instruction on the role of the electric bass guitar. I guess that I am on Lesson #1 – The Role of the Bassline. For me, I am in my first attempt to decipher the bassline from a song. Playing bass to other instruments is far, far in the future for me. From the stories and comments from the others on the newgroup, my primary focus when playing bass to other instruments is to "lock with the drummer". I have an idea of what this means, but I really will not know what it means until it occurs. I am at the stage of learning where I should find a bass instructor rather than peck away at a bassline on my own. > are there any good books that would help me learn more about > this kind of stuff?
Some of the people on the newsgroup have mentioned the following instructional books as being very good: http://www.edfriedland.com/books.html I have not got any of them, so I do not know about their content. Have fun. Doug
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I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about tuning it to the Eb tuning?
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I just noticed that even though the strings are tuned, the pitch at each fret on my bass varies about 5-10 cents. Is this normal? I have a reissue (recent) of a 1962 Fender jazz bass and I’m using a direct feed into a Korg tuner, if that helps. Also, I can’t afford an amp yet, so I’m just patching through on aux in an old stereo I bought in high school, for learning purposes. My E string sounds a lot louder and a lot more "twangy" than the others. Is this just the stereo, or is it the bass? Thanks in advance. Dahner
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>I just noticed that even though the strings are tuned, the pitch at each >fret on my bass varies about 5-10 cents. Is this normal? I have a reissue >(recent) of a 1962 Fender jazz bass and I’m using a direct feed into a >Korg tuner, if that helps.
Probably normal. How big is 5-10 cents? When you fret the string it will naturally go sharp as you increase the tension, although if you could here this I’d be shocked (and all stringed instrument players would be out of business, except harpists). If the bass’s action was way off, this might happen, but I think that you’ve have mentioned some other symptoms (like the strings being a half inch off the fretboard) if it were so. >Also, I can’t afford an amp yet, so I’m just patching through on aux in >an old stereo I bought in high school, for learning purposes. My E >string sounds a lot louder and a lot more "twangy" than the others. Is >this just the stereo, or is it the bass? Thanks in advance.
Probably the bass, you can probably fix it most easily by tightening the pickup screw on the E-string side a turn or two, or loosening it on the G-string side. If it’s not that, then I’d think it’s the stereo though I couldn’t really guess why. Maybe the E string is newer than the other strings on the bass? That’d do it perhaps. — The trouble is that even the nineteenth century occultists fell victim to the spirit of positivism – a thing is true only if it can be proved. Umberto Eco
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I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! this is very bad!! Do U have an idea Andi
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> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
Try a different brand of string. — SPAM-GUARD! Remove "user.", if present, from address to email me.
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I would look at the tuning pegs, they are probably slipping and need to be better quality.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
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check the bridge – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are >dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I >have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! >Do U have an idea >Andi
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Pray to the tuning gods for better tuning.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
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Do all the strings de-tune together? If so, it might be a neck or bridge problem. If its just one or two strings, it might be the tuning heads. I don’t want to sound condescending here but I don’t know how long you have been playing. ALWAYS tune up to the note, NEVER down. Also, hot lights, and even the heat of your hands can cause the strings to expand and the pitch to drop so warm up a bit before you tune. Capnron Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com
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One thing that always gets over looked is how the strings are installed in the first place. If the strings are not properly wound around the tuner as to lock themselves in place they will continually go out of tune. The correct way to string a guitar or bass is covered quite well in any of the good books on repair or maintenance. You could also take your bass to a good tech and ask them if it is strung properly. If it isn’t I’m sure they would be willing to show you how. Before you spend a dime on new tuners or repairs make sure this is not the cause of the problem.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
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>I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it >says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass >for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had >to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about >tuning it to the Eb tuning?
Still doing that bass tab, huh? See, I warned you you were short changing yourself with regards to musical proficiency….but would you listen??? NO!!! Assuming your A string is tuned correctly, tune the E string so the 6th fret on the E string sounds with the same note, instead of the 5th fret
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> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, > and it says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)".
In my best Darth Vader voice … "William, cast off the G string and embrace a low-B string to change the open strings of your 4-string from EADG to BEAD. Come feel the power of the low bass rumble from the notes on the low-B string (and the expense of the low-B string). This is your destiny …" > Ive only been playing bass for a few months and have no previous > musical experience,
I welcome you to the newbiehood. Myself, I feel like I am one of the questors in the movie of the Wizard Of Oz because, in my case, I am searching for an ear for music. > and ive never had to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG > tuning. How do I go about tuning it to the Eb tuning?
I have a chromatic tuner, a Seiko ST-747 to be exact. There are other manufacturers of chromatic tuners such as Korg and Yamaha. A chromatic tuner is what you need. Here is a link that may help: http://www.zone0ne.com/bassics/html/tunebass.htm Doug
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> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it > says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass > for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had > to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about > tuning it to the Eb tuning?
Hi, What they mean by dropped Eb is the tuning Eb Ab Db Gb. The best way to go about tuning to Eb flat is to buy a tuner. They are so inexpensive these days you can’t go wrong and it will make life easier when you have to tune back up to standard tuning. Make sure you get a chromatic tuner:-) –Roger
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Many thanks for the advice. I AM trying to do some things by ear nowadays, I guess I just got a bit lazy… Ill go any buy myself a half decent tuner at the weekend, I do have one at the mo but its not great. Ill try that BEAD thing tonight doug. As I mentioned earlier I have no previous musical experience, but I really love the bass (I personally have never wanted to play the electric guitar, always bass), but one thing that I think limits me is that I dont know enough music ‘theory’, you know how songs fit together with respect to the different instruments in a band, are there any good books that would help me learn more about this kind of stuff?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it > says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass > for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never > had > to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go > about > tuning it to the Eb tuning? > Hi, > What they mean by dropped Eb is the tuning Eb Ab Db Gb. The best > way to go about tuning to Eb flat is to buy a tuner. They are so inexpensive > these days you can’t go wrong and it will make life easier when you have to > tune back up to standard tuning. Make sure you get a chromatic tuner:-) > –Roger
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> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it > says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass > for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had > to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about > tuning it to the Eb tuning?
Match the "E" string with the "A" string, 6th fret sound (one octave higher) This will give you Eb. When you’re ready to return to standard tuning, get your half step back by matching your lowest string to the "A" string, 7th fret. Sometimes people go ahead and drop to "D" (grunge, folk, etc.) and change the fingering up one fret on that lowest string. This reduces the number of tunings you have to keep in your mind. Terry
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> Many thanks for the advice. > I AM trying to do some things by ear nowadays, I guess I just > got a bit lazy…
In my opinion, if you are experimenting to see if you can get the bass in tune by ear, then go ahead. But, use your tuner afterwards to see how close you got it tune and to get the bass in tune. Otherwise, you may be incorrectly learning what the sound of the notes are. > Ill go any buy myself a half decent tuner at the weekend, I do > have one at the mo but its not great. > Ill try that BEAD thing tonight doug.
YIKES!!! I did not know my Darth Vader voice was so compelling! In all seriousness, experiment. Give the BEAD string- ing a try. You may need to make a slight truss rod adjustment as the BEAD stringing may exert more force on the neck than the EADG stringing. You may need to widen, not deepen, the nut to accomodate the B-string. > As I mentioned earlier I have no previous musical experience,
Same here. (Well, I had a few acoustic guitar lessons in my early years but the acoustic guitar and I did not get along together.) > but I really love the bass
Same here. > (I personally have never wanted to play the electric guitar, > always bass),
In my youth, I just wanted the means to have women chase after me. On the surface, being an electric guitar player seemed a way for this fantasy to come true. Didn’t make it as a rock star. Didn’t make it as a screen idol. Didn’t make it as a sports celeb. Didn’t make it as a business tycoon. But, I am having a quiet and pleasant time now learning to play my BEAD electric bass guitar. She is easy to get along with, not like my computer. > but one thing that I think limits me is that I dont know > enough music ‘theory’, you know how songs fit together with > respect to the different instruments in a band,
Take a look at the following web site: http://www.harmony-central.com/Bass/Lessons/ This web site provides some instruction on the role of the electric bass guitar. I guess that I am on Lesson #1 – The Role of the Bassline. For me, I am in my first attempt to decipher the bassline from a song. Playing bass to other instruments is far, far in the future for me. From the stories and comments from the others on the newgroup, my primary focus when playing bass to other instruments is to "lock with the drummer". I have an idea of what this means, but I really will not know what it means until it occurs. I am at the stage of learning where I should find a bass instructor rather than peck away at a bassline on my own. > are there any good books that would help me learn more about > this kind of stuff?
Some of the people on the newsgroup have mentioned the following instructional books as being very good: http://www.edfriedland.com/books.html I have not got any of them, so I do not know about their content. Have fun. Doug
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I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about tuning it to the Eb tuning?
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I just noticed that even though the strings are tuned, the pitch at each fret on my bass varies about 5-10 cents. Is this normal? I have a reissue (recent) of a 1962 Fender jazz bass and I’m using a direct feed into a Korg tuner, if that helps. Also, I can’t afford an amp yet, so I’m just patching through on aux in an old stereo I bought in high school, for learning purposes. My E string sounds a lot louder and a lot more "twangy" than the others. Is this just the stereo, or is it the bass? Thanks in advance. Dahner
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>I just noticed that even though the strings are tuned, the pitch at each >fret on my bass varies about 5-10 cents. Is this normal? I have a reissue >(recent) of a 1962 Fender jazz bass and I’m using a direct feed into a >Korg tuner, if that helps.
Probably normal. How big is 5-10 cents? When you fret the string it will naturally go sharp as you increase the tension, although if you could here this I’d be shocked (and all stringed instrument players would be out of business, except harpists). If the bass’s action was way off, this might happen, but I think that you’ve have mentioned some other symptoms (like the strings being a half inch off the fretboard) if it were so. >Also, I can’t afford an amp yet, so I’m just patching through on aux in >an old stereo I bought in high school, for learning purposes. My E >string sounds a lot louder and a lot more "twangy" than the others. Is >this just the stereo, or is it the bass? Thanks in advance.
Probably the bass, you can probably fix it most easily by tightening the pickup screw on the E-string side a turn or two, or loosening it on the G-string side. If it’s not that, then I’d think it’s the stereo though I couldn’t really guess why. Maybe the E string is newer than the other strings on the bass? That’d do it perhaps. — The trouble is that even the nineteenth century occultists fell victim to the spirit of positivism – a thing is true only if it can be proved. Umberto Eco
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I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! this is very bad!! Do U have an idea Andi
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> I have a Yamaha CPX 15 guitar. A very excellent sound!! But: The strings are > dis-tuned permanent!! I use Graphit and all the things U can do , but I > have to tune teh guitar after every three song!!! > this is very bad!! > Do U have an idea > Andi
Try a different brand of string. — SPAM-GUARD! Remove "user.", if present, from address to email me.
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I would look at the tuning pegs, they are probably slipping and need to be better quality.
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Pray to the tuning gods for better tuning.
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Do all the strings de-tune together? If so, it might be a neck or bridge problem. If its just one or two strings, it might be the tuning heads. I don’t want to sound condescending here but I don’t know how long you have been playing. ALWAYS tune up to the note, NEVER down. Also, hot lights, and even the heat of your hands can cause the strings to expand and the pitch to drop so warm up a bit before you tune. Capnron Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com
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One thing that always gets over looked is how the strings are installed in the first place. If the strings are not properly wound around the tuner as to lock themselves in place they will continually go out of tune. The correct way to string a guitar or bass is covered quite well in any of the good books on repair or maintenance. You could also take your bass to a good tech and ask them if it is strung properly. If it isn’t I’m sure they would be willing to show you how. Before you spend a dime on new tuners or repairs make sure this is not the cause of the problem.
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>I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it >says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass >for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had >to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about >tuning it to the Eb tuning?
Still doing that bass tab, huh? See, I warned you you were short changing yourself with regards to musical proficiency….but would you listen??? NO!!! Assuming your A string is tuned correctly, tune the E string so the 6th fret on the E string sounds with the same note, instead of the 5th fret
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> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, > and it says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)".
In my best Darth Vader voice … "William, cast off the G string and embrace a low-B string to change the open strings of your 4-string from EADG to BEAD. Come feel the power of the low bass rumble from the notes on the low-B string (and the expense of the low-B string). This is your destiny …" > Ive only been playing bass for a few months and have no previous > musical experience,
I welcome you to the newbiehood. Myself, I feel like I am one of the questors in the movie of the Wizard Of Oz because, in my case, I am searching for an ear for music. > and ive never had to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG > tuning. How do I go about tuning it to the Eb tuning?
I have a chromatic tuner, a Seiko ST-747 to be exact. There are other manufacturers of chromatic tuners such as Korg and Yamaha. A chromatic tuner is what you need. Here is a link that may help: http://www.zone0ne.com/bassics/html/tunebass.htm Doug
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> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it > says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass > for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had > to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about > tuning it to the Eb tuning?
Hi, What they mean by dropped Eb is the tuning Eb Ab Db Gb. The best way to go about tuning to Eb flat is to buy a tuner. They are so inexpensive these days you can’t go wrong and it will make life easier when you have to tune back up to standard tuning. Make sure you get a chromatic tuner:-) –Roger
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Many thanks for the advice. I AM trying to do some things by ear nowadays, I guess I just got a bit lazy… Ill go any buy myself a half decent tuner at the weekend, I do have one at the mo but its not great. Ill try that BEAD thing tonight doug. As I mentioned earlier I have no previous musical experience, but I really love the bass (I personally have never wanted to play the electric guitar, always bass), but one thing that I think limits me is that I dont know enough music ‘theory’, you know how songs fit together with respect to the different instruments in a band, are there any good books that would help me learn more about this kind of stuff?
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> I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it > says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass > for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had > to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about > tuning it to the Eb tuning?
Match the "E" string with the "A" string, 6th fret sound (one octave higher) This will give you Eb. When you’re ready to return to standard tuning, get your half step back by matching your lowest string to the "A" string, 7th fret. Sometimes people go ahead and drop to "D" (grunge, folk, etc.) and change the fingering up one fret on that lowest string. This reduces the number of tunings you have to keep in your mind. Terry
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> Many thanks for the advice. > I AM trying to do some things by ear nowadays, I guess I just > got a bit lazy…
In my opinion, if you are experimenting to see if you can get the bass in tune by ear, then go ahead. But, use your tuner afterwards to see how close you got it tune and to get the bass in tune. Otherwise, you may be incorrectly learning what the sound of the notes are. > Ill go any buy myself a half decent tuner at the weekend, I do > have one at the mo but its not great. > Ill try that BEAD thing tonight doug.
YIKES!!! I did not know my Darth Vader voice was so compelling! In all seriousness, experiment. Give the BEAD string- ing a try. You may need to make a slight truss rod adjustment as the BEAD stringing may exert more force on the neck than the EADG stringing. You may need to widen, not deepen, the nut to accomodate the B-string. > As I mentioned earlier I have no previous musical experience,
Same here. (Well, I had a few acoustic guitar lessons in my early years but the acoustic guitar and I did not get along together.) > but I really love the bass
Same here. > (I personally have never wanted to play the electric guitar, > always bass),
In my youth, I just wanted the means to have women chase after me. On the surface, being an electric guitar player seemed a way for this fantasy to come true. Didn’t make it as a rock star. Didn’t make it as a screen idol. Didn’t make it as a sports celeb. Didn’t make it as a business tycoon. But, I am having a quiet and pleasant time now learning to play my BEAD electric bass guitar. She is easy to get along with, not like my computer. > but one thing that I think limits me is that I dont know > enough music ‘theory’, you know how songs fit together with > respect to the different instruments in a band,
Take a look at the following web site: http://www.harmony-central.com/Bass/Lessons/ This web site provides some instruction on the role of the electric bass guitar. I guess that I am on Lesson #1 – The Role of the Bassline. For me, I am in my first attempt to decipher the bassline from a song. Playing bass to other instruments is far, far in the future for me. From the stories and comments from the others on the newgroup, my primary focus when playing bass to other instruments is to "lock with the drummer". I have an idea of what this means, but I really will not know what it means until it occurs. I am at the stage of learning where I should find a bass instructor rather than peck away at a bassline on my own. > are there any good books that would help me learn more about > this kind of stuff?
Some of the people on the newsgroup have mentioned the following instructional books as being very good: http://www.edfriedland.com/books.html I have not got any of them, so I do not know about their content. Have fun. Doug
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I’ve just downloaded the bass tab for "Need you Tonight" by INXS, and it says I have to use "Drop Eb Tuning(Eb,A,D,G)". Ive only been playing bass for a few months and have no previous musical experience, and ive never had to tune the bass differently than the regular EADG tuning. How do I go about tuning it to the Eb tuning?
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